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Old 04-02-2015, 09:32 PM   #15
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Our first long (two month) trip involved carrying 4 bikes. Only used two. It is simpler to carry two.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:03 PM   #16
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Our first long (two month) trip involved carrying 4 bikes. Only used two. It is simpler to carry two.
Yeah, thing is, I ride my bike every day. I don't really drive when I'm home except in unusual circumstances. So I'm kind of attached to my bikes as primary transportation, and I don't like to ride my mtb long distances on the road, or vice versa. We also have a trailer to tow for the kiddo. So we have a lot of bike crap.

Still, I may break down and economize on bikes.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:32 PM   #17
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You didn't say what kind of Class A, DP or gas. If it's a gas, add the second rack to the front of the coach. It's a little more difficult, but you can also add a front rack to a DP. My BIL did and carries his road bike up front.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:26 AM   #18
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In the 80's, we did what Dutch Star Don recommended and had a hitch shop install a receiver on the front of our class-C Tioga. We usually carried 4 bikes on that rack, and several times actually carried 6 bikes! We have owned a class-A gasser for the past 10 years, and have not looked into doing the same type of front mounted hitch since the kiddos are all grown up, and we just carry 2 to 4 bikes now.

However, 2 of the bikes are lightweight, and the other 2 are recumbent bikes made by bike-E (not e-bike) that are significantly heavier. After watching the lever action caused by the length of the bike rack extension with all 4 of the bikes on the rack behind the moho, I am seriously considering getting a small trailer that will carry our jeep, the bikes, and all of our crap. Here is a site recommended by others on this forum:

Recreational & Motorsports Trailers

They make single and stacker type trailers, we could even bring along an ATV. More crap, more fun, eh? And the best part is it all stays inside.

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Old 04-11-2015, 07:50 AM   #19
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I have a splitter hitch on the MH. kuat rack with four bikes on top, 4000lb jeep on the lower with a tandem off the back of the jeep. 3 years and 60k miles with no issues. I will leave no bike behind. Let me know if you need more info.
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:42 PM   #20
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I have a splitter hitch on the MH. kuat rack with four bikes on top, 4000lb jeep on the lower with a tandem off the back of the jeep. 3 years and 60k miles with no issues. I will leave no bike behind. Let me know if you need more info.
Well that's interesting to hear, Jake. Did you have to use any extenders for your tow bar?

After we put everything together at the shop last week, the "experts" there felt like it was just too long. We need the dual hitch, a drop, a 24" extender, and then the towbar. I put experts in quotation marks because they couldn't really articulate a reason in any technical sense, it was just their intuition that it was going to be too long. In their defense, it was a lot of independent pieces of steel hooked together, a la Rube Goldberg.

We compromised for now: I took the extension off the Kuat and shrunk back to a 12" extender. This means I can only put two bikes behind the MH. I do have the option to put another Kuat on the back of the toad.

So far it seems pretty stable to me, even with my heavy bikes. Here's what it looked like at the shop, minus the bike rack in the upper receiver:



I'm still very interested in getting all three/four bikes on the MH hitch. But I'm also not interested in over-torqueing the lower mechanism with a huge lever arm if the toad were to swing to one side for some reason. Sideloading the hitch equipment is not something that I can find much data on; it's certainly not something the manufacturers rate and try to make easy to measure in their specs.

Happy to hear further ideas or suggestions. Keep 'em coming.

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W are on the road today, but i will take a few photos later and post my set up.
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Here you go. Four bikes under the cover. I had the upper portion of the splitter added by a welder. Click image for larger version

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Hey Jake, thanks for those pics. It looks like you're okay with the tow bar being underneath the rack. For some reason, my guys seemed to think that wouldn't work. Maybe it's because the tow bar can articulate up and could slam into the bikes?

Also, what do you do with the tow bar when you disconnect? Do you just pull it off the rack?

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Well, inspired by Jake's tow bar overhang, and motivated by my desire to get going this weekend and not have to leave my third bike at home for six months, I went ahead and added the Kuat extension to the rack. I also conducted some careful tests to see how the car would behave with respect to the rack at sharp turns.

I believe it is possible that a very sharp turn (near the maximum) AND a big dip could theoretically cause the outside bottom corner of the rack to make contact with the hood of the car, but it would be very close. And, this car is already pretty beat up, so if I am dumb enough to get into that situation anyway, I guess I'll just put up with more scrapes or dents.

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