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Old 08-26-2001, 06:25 PM   #1
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Ok, another STUPID ???

I just picked up my motorhome from service, of course it was in a thunderstorm so I checked NOTHING.

Now if find that the house batteries are dead, as they had left the water pump and bathroom fan on.
Generator won't start, I assume because the house batteries are dead.

Questions are:
Will the solar panels charge up the batteries?
If and when the generator starts does it charge the house batteries?
Can I "jump" the house batteries from the chasis battery to get the generator started?
As you can tell I need guidance....I need to demand satisfaction from the dealer, but I also need house batteries to get me to the NATIONAL RALLY !!!!! SUGGESTIONS ??????????

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Old 08-26-2001, 06:25 PM   #2
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Ok, another STUPID ???

I just picked up my motorhome from service, of course it was in a thunderstorm so I checked NOTHING.

Now if find that the house batteries are dead, as they had left the water pump and bathroom fan on.
Generator won't start, I assume because the house batteries are dead.

Questions are:
Will the solar panels charge up the batteries?
If and when the generator starts does it charge the house batteries?
Can I "jump" the house batteries from the chasis battery to get the generator started?
As you can tell I need guidance....I need to demand satisfaction from the dealer, but I also need house batteries to get me to the NATIONAL RALLY !!!!! SUGGESTIONS ??????????

Lou & Robin Mitchell
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Old 08-26-2001, 06:28 PM   #3
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You should be able to charge up your house batteries by driving the RV, or plugging into a shore lane overnight, unless they are dead beyond resurrection.

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Old 08-26-2001, 06:39 PM   #4
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Lou,
My guess is they are dead. Even if you can possibly get a full charge on them, the hold time will be horrible. It is known to kill batteries to let them fully discharge, then stay that way. Worst thing for them.
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Run the motorhome, let the engine run for about a half an hour and then start up the generator.

Your saving grace may be the fact that your coach batteries are still brandy new and they should come up in short order.

Like Bob Riley said, you don't want to kill your house batteries because they might just stay that way.

I just don't know why, but I find it difficult to start my generator when hooked up to shore power. It's as if the generator is being held back somehow and the starter motor labors to to keep the starter engaged, so I quit. If you're hooked up to shore power to run the charger, let it charge for about an hour, disconnect the shore power, and then you should be able to crank over the gen set.

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As Bob mentioned, leaving a set of flooded batteries in a discharged state will cause them to sulfate. The higher the ambient temperature, the faster the sulfation.

If they won't hold a full charge after several attempts, consider treating them with EDTA to break up the sulfate crystals. You'll lose a few percent of their total capacity (compared with an unharmed set) but that's better than junking them completely.


Document what happened and see if you can get the shop to eat some of the damage.
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Thank guys, ALL IS WELL.
I drove the Motorhome to work today, what a hoot!!
Anyhow, by the time I got here and with the help of the solar chargers everything cranked up and is performing like a dream.

See ya in Myrtle Beach.

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You drove it to work?? That must have been fun.
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While at work, I figured I would let the generator run this afternoon to help charge up the house batteriers, right????????

So, I go out to drive home, I check the battery and chassis battery meter...they both read something like 13.? and 14.?, of course I have no idea what that means, but I figure it is good since they are close????????
I turn off the generator, and loose all house power. Now the meter for the chasis reads the same and the house batteries are reading ____(blank). So I am thinking Mr. Riley was right, these puppies are flat dead and need to be replaced........so tomorrow I will make my friendly call to the RV Repair shop to see if they are going to accept responsibility for leaving things running after doing repairs??, will see.

Update to follow.......one way or the other my butt is going to Myrtle Beach

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If you want to make sure, you can take the suspect battery to almost any battery shop and they will test it for free (they hope you'll buy the replacement from them, of course.)

As long as you're replacing, you might look into a pair of 6V golf cart batteries. They're far and away the best deal in a house battery.
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Lou!
Try some of this in your new batteries. I've got in all of mine as a prevenative measure to your experience. We leave the motorhome plugged in all the time at home, and I was worried about the water evaporating out of the battery.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Conradical:
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Try some of this in your new batteries. I've got in all of mine as a prevenative measure to your experience. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bob Riley is bringing the product to the National so that we can all get a handle on what it does. I believe he said that he is going to raffle off a few bottles! Here's hoping

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Yeh, I'm going to donate some for your raffle.
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I will speak up for the Thermoil. I have had some in my batteries for a few years. I bought mine directly from Thermoil's jobber. Bob was not around then, nor was irv2.com come to think of it..... When I have to replace the bateries I will get some more from Bad Bob(Riley) mimself.

It has done such a good job I left the battery vent to the outside once by mistake. I did not smell the tell tell smell of the acid fumes in the battery compartment. Well I have not put the vent back in place. Have not had any ill effect on stuff stored in that compartment. You also will rarely have to add any distilled water to the batteries. In other words.. The stuff WORKS!

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