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Old 06-30-2012, 04:26 PM   #1
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House Battery/Deep Cycle Q/A??

Hi there we are brand new to RVing. We have a 1987 Coachmen Leprechaun 23. The Deep Cycle battery only last about 48 hours even if we are not using anything. Should it last longer? Should I begin looking for a short or a ground out somewhere. Anyone with any information would be great thanks. Also sorry if it is a dumb question...we are new and I am not sure how long a deep cycle battery should last. Thanks.
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Hi and welcome to the forum and congrats on your new rig.

We've got some real electrical experts that hang out around here and I'm sure they'll chime in with help soon.

I'm sure they'll ask how old your battery is and if you've checked to see if it has water in the cells. Also, do you know what kind of charger you have in the coach, have you cleaned all of the terminal connections, etc.

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Old 06-30-2012, 06:29 PM   #3
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IF you are not using it it should last longer. What size is the battery: And is it really a deep cycle or does it have the word MARINE on it (Marine is bad)

No matter the type

Group 24, about 75 amp hours
Group 27 around 90-95
Group 29 about 100
Gropp 31 130

Optima, 2/3 of the above per size.

Charge it, put an ammeter in the line, and see what the "All turned off" draw is.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:36 PM   #4
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Our RV (Brave) has a switch by the door that turns off the batteries that we accidental turned off so the batteries were not recharging. Now that we know that... we make sure that switch is always on.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:37 PM   #5
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Hi Herewegoagin,
Assuming you have no measurement tools, consider taking the fully charged battery to your local auto parts store and have them load test the battery. If the battery test is good, purchase a tool that measures AMP draw. Consider a clamp on tool. These are the easiest to use. These tools can be combined with a volt/ohm meter.
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I'll try to answer all your helpful responses. The battery appears to be in great condition. It is very clean and the terminals are spotless. It does say "marine" on it. I have no idea what size it is but I will provide the info. I also do not know how it charges either. I know that when we first got the coach the interior lights did not work unless we were plugged into our house via the "shoreline". After being plugged in for a couple days we noticed the house lights would work while not using the shoreline but only for a short time.
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We have pretty much the same rig, just a little bigger. Sounds like your battery is probably shot. Mine can set for about 3 weeks before the battery dies. The LP gas detector is a parasitic draw.

Without the rig attached to a shoreline, the battery should be about 12v. With it plugged in, the battery should read about 13.5 volts. If not, you have a bad battery and/ or problem with your converter/ battery charger.

Check your voltages, get back to us. We'll take it one step at a time.
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We have pretty much the same rig, just a little bigger. Sounds like your battery is probably shot. Mine can set for about 3 weeks before the battery dies. The LP gas detector is a parasitic draw.

Without the rig attached to a shoreline, the battery should be about 12v. With it plugged in, the battery should read about 13.5 volts. If not, you have a bad battery and/ or problem with your converter/ battery charger.

Check your voltages, get back to us. We'll take it one step at a time.
Thank you, and judging from your picture we appear to have the exact same rig! That would really be great. I will check what you told me and get back to you. When you say LP detector are you speaking of the control unit above the door? I'm just wondering so that if it is that I can isolate it. Thanks again.
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Shouldn't be. LP gas detector should be at floor level as the gas is heavier than air. Needs to be at floor to be effective.
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I'll try to answer all your helpful responses. The battery appears to be in great condition. It is very clean and the terminals are spotless. It does say "marine" on it. I have no idea what size it is but I will provide the info. I also do not know how it charges either. I know that when we first got the coach the interior lights did not work unless we were plugged into our house via the "shoreline". After being plugged in for a couple days we noticed the house lights would work while not using the shoreline but only for a short time.
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Dan, thanks for the links. I have a hard time understanding all this electrical stuff. I don't even play electric guitars or mandolins.
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First, you are never "not using anything" when it comes to the battery(s). There are several circuit boards that are powered (even in the appliance switch says 'Off') and some detector alarms (LP and CO) and probably the motor driven entry steps and some other things. But is the visible things are turned off, then yes a house battery in good condition should last several days. Have you checked the water in the battery cells? How old are the house and engine batteries? Do you know if the battery charging system is working?
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Thank you, and judging from your picture we appear to have the exact same rig! That would really be great. I will check what you told me and get back to you. When you say LP detector are you speaking of the control unit above the door? I'm just wondering so that if it is that I can isolate it. Thanks again.
If your rig is set up like mine, the frig is on the passenger side of the rig, directly beside the entry door. The LP detector is directly under the frig, on the panel. If you remove the detector, there is an in-line fuse (3 amp I think) directly behind it. During the winter, or if I plan to store the rig for an extended time without shore power, I simply take the fuse out.

Something else to consider later is the furnace. In mine, even if you turn the thermostat all the way down, the furnace will still automatically run if it gets down to that temp. There is a "switch" inside the thermostat that is supposed to turn it completely off, but mine does not work. Not a big deal for me, I just pull the fuse from the panel. But it is something to consider this winter when you put it up for storage.
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First: Visual on the battery does not indicate internal conditions.

Second: Somewhere in your little guy is a box called a converter.. IF you could please tell me if there is a label on the door, behind which are the circuit breakers and fuses (If they are behind the same door odds are the converter is bhind them) I'd like to know the make and model of that door in that case, this will tell me a lot.

Next to figure out the battery size, it is either printed on the battery or grab a ruler and measure it.. Then go to a battery maker's web site and see what is that same size.

Minor differences between a East Penn Group xx and an Interstate Group XX and a Trojan Group XX but they will all be close enough for you to nail it.

Also you will usually find 3 ir 4 batterues if tge sane suze,, IEL: 27R, 27F 27

All are group 27, the letter has to do with terminal placement.
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