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Old 10-04-2015, 12:41 PM   #1
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How necessary is the toad?

So, wanting to travel Northamerica in an RV, having the time and money next year, I'm currently in the preparation phase of getting all the info available.

As I'm not planning on staying in one place for more than two or three days and after comparing lots of RVs and different types, I came to find that I'll most likely go for a 36ft class A Diesel. Yes, for travelling alone a Class B would probably be an overall more ecoomical decision, but for one thing I'll be expecting guests and for the other I came to find that comparing class As to Bs or Cs, you get more for the money (looking at the 30000USD sector).
Anyway that brings me to my question for you experienced RVers: How necessary is a toad facing your RV being about 36ft?
Is it luxury or an absolute necessity? Do most campgrounds offer transfers to the closest towns at a reasonable price or is that a rare find?
How about riding a bike to town from the campground or BLM land? Are the roads / sideways usually made up for it or will there be a risk of being run over by the next semi?

What are your experiences?

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Old 10-04-2015, 12:47 PM   #2
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For me a toad is an absolute necessity. I greatly value the freedom and convenience that it provides. I would hate to waste time and undergo hassle with car rentals. Plus, many of the places we go are in wilderness areas or national parks etc and the nearest car rental could easily be 50-100 miles away or more.

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Old 10-04-2015, 12:47 PM   #3
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When traveling Matt, for solely the freedom to come and go..........you will need a TOAD, and if you encounter problem while on the road, you still have wheels to go get parts, if need be. We use the Coach as a base camp, TOAD to go exploring the country side, when a radius is explored, move the Coach.
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:52 PM   #4
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Absolutely necessary for us. It is always a challenge to get the bus into most areas. Combination of width, height and tail wag.

We generally use the coach as a rolling hotel suite. Will park in a RV park and use the toad to investigate the surrounding areas, shop or got to dinner.

Have traveled to a few state parks without it and always ended up needing a ride.

A good used toad will not break the bank and you should be able to recover most of you investment when you sell it.

Good Luck and happy travels!
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:55 PM   #5
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I'd say you need a Toad.
Your profile says you are from Austria - Google tells me that is about the size of Maine. There are large distances between RV parks and local towns and attractions. The majority of RV parks do not offer transportation. Also, if you go into a large city (Boston, NYC, Wash DC) it is difficult to drive wit a Class A and finding a parking place.

Biking - same issue as distance and then there is a danger - many places are not bike friendly.

Look at some of the areas you want to stop, find a RV park and then map out the attractions you want to see. I think you will find out you need a toad.

Class A coaches are nice. Have you looked into a travel trailer and tow vehicle? You could spend much less on purchase price and operating costs on a travel trailer and tow vehicle then a Class A 300,000 and a toad.
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:57 PM   #6
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For us too it is an absolute necessity. Without a car you will be very limited and restricted.

The purpose of what you are doing is see lots of things and places as you travel. Without a car you will miss so much.

Also, with any motorhome things will go wrong and with that in mind having a car will be very useful.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:11 PM   #7
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Without knowing your proposed itinerary I'd have the toad. USA is mighty big as mentioned above and in my experience few RV parks have tour set capabilities. Do you have a proposed route? That might make a difference. In any case Welcome and I hope you have a great trip around the USA.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:20 PM   #8
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If you really don't want a toad, perhaps you should consider looking at a getting a fifth wheel and pickup truck.

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Old 10-04-2015, 05:38 PM   #9
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Toad - we don't leave home without it.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:43 PM   #10
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Tried a year without a toad, did rentals, that year only lasted two trips. Toad is an absolute necessity in my book!
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:51 PM   #11
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another term for toad is a dinghy or lifeboat in the event of a road issue where your coach is immobile.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:57 PM   #12
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Agreed about the toad with the size coach you're looking at and what you're planning to do. You can get away without a toad with a class B because it would be small enough to go almost everywhere. Not so with the "A".

Going to the Sun road in Glacier National Park, The Needles Highway in South Dakota, or the streets of Boston or NYC are all examples of beautiful drives or historic places in the US where you can't or won't want to drive or park a class A (can't even take a class B on the Needles unless it is less than 8'4' high).
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:49 PM   #13
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We actually traveled for two years without a toad, not a big deal for us not to have one. It depends on where you stay and what you plan to do. We did stay at campgrounds with full hookups and dry camping where walking with our dogs was not a problem, all part of planning the trip. We have a toad now but do not always take it with us.
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:58 PM   #14
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Lovely wife and I were thinking the same about NOT having a vehicle to tow....then we talked to many RV's and we have now decided to dolly our Chevy Equinox(front wheel drive).
I totally agree with the threads that one really does need a toad or a dollied vehicle as their logic is hard to argue against....they speak from "hands on" experience.

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