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Old 03-12-2014, 03:38 PM   #1
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I would love objective feedback b4 buying

I am about to buy a gas coach. I have had numerous DP, Newmar included. The industry seems to have taken many turns away from quality. The two brands that seem to have loyalty in different areas are Newmar and Tiffin. The more that I Forum/Read about Tiffin, the more my instinct tells me that I don't want to be a Beta Baby in their QC Growth. I would love to hear from some Newmar Gas Coach owners or others that can help me with objective heads up info. Newmar in the highline area has been good. How about the gassers?? QC and Service.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:14 PM   #2
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I am about to buy a gas coach. I have had numerous DP, Newmar included. The industry seems to have taken many turns away from quality. The two brands that seem to have loyalty in different areas are Newmar and Tiffin. The more that I Forum/Read about Tiffin, the more my instinct tells me that I don't want to be a Beta Baby in their QC Growth. I would love to hear from some Newmar Gas Coach owners or others that can help me with objective heads up info. Newmar in the highline area has been good. How about the gassers?? QC and Service. Thank You so Much!
You will,get more response to this by posting in the Newmar forum.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:27 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum and irv2.
I have been the sole owner of a gas coach over the years from Ford 460 class C , 88 GB Cruise Aire a Bounder, than three Newmars 2 Fords V-10's and now present 03 Workhorse chassis 8.1 and Allison transmission.
The Newmar Fords 98 & 99 chassis' need work to support the heavy Newmar box and the Workhorse chassis was like night and day over the previous Fords for drivability and power. The trouble is Workhorse over extended themselves is no longer in business.
You have not said what year coach your interested in if its used or the new Ford chassis which many people are happy with.
If I were to buy now I would get the Ford because when Workhorse was in business Ford changed their RV chassis from their Ford truck chassis to a chassis designed for a RV CHASSIS and when I visited the 2010 Tamper Show they had one there and it was impressive.
If Workhorse was still in business I would buy that because of the drive train of a V-8 and Allison.
A Workhorse W-22 to W-24-25 in a used Newmar would be my choice and a W-24-25 would be tops because of the heavier chassis and better braking system.
All Newmars are built the same whether older or newer gas or DP.
Your in N.E. if you PM me I can give you a tour of my coach were I live on N.H., MA border.
In the QT's # 3 Hoot's THREADS are people that have purchased new Newmars and some with the gas Canyon Star and Bay Stars.
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I am about to buy a gas coach. I have had numerous DP, Newmar included. The industry seems to have taken many turns away from quality. The two brands that seem to have loyalty in different areas are Newmar and Tiffin. The more that I Forum/Read about Tiffin, the more my instinct tells me that I don't want to be a Beta Baby in their QC Growth. I would love to hear from some Newmar Gas Coach owners or others that can help me with objective heads up info. Newmar in the highline area has been good. How about the gassers?? QC and Service.
Thank You so Much!
Newmar makes 3 "levels" of gas coaches, Bay Star "sport", Bay Star, and Canyon Star. All are built on Ford's F53 chassis with V-10 and 5 speed tranny, because that is the only chassis supplier these days.

Tiffin makes only one gas model, the Allegro Open road, also on the F53.

You may also want to look at WBGO Adventurer / Itasca Suncruiser which are the top quality gassers over there, again only available on F53 chassis.

You don't say "why" you plan to buy gas, but I'm thinking you're not going to like the ride quality, since it is likely to be much rougher than what you had with your previous DPs.
Test drive, test drive, test drive.......

FWIW, My 2003 Newmar KSCA was almost trouble free for 98,000 miles over 7 years, but it was a Workhorse chassis-no longer available. My signature coach is pretty nice, but it still isn't a DP ride.
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I have no problem with the ride quality of a Workhorse chassis if you want a used coach it was hands above the Ford chassis at the time and if costs are a factor a gas coach on used WH w-22 or w-24 would meet your needs.
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Love the storage, space, finish, and layout of our 36LA. Have not found a gas coach that compares, since you are asking on Tiffin forum.
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Love the storage, space, finish, and layout of our 36LA. Have not found a gas coach that compares.
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We're very pleased with our 36LA as well. The initial quality is far superior to our last RV.
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THANKS! I am only looking at new coaches. This is mostly for my son and weekend family stuff. I have had an Essex with comfort drive. It would be unreasonable to expect most coaches to ride as well. I am very interested in the satisfaction with build and service.
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

Apparently you started two duplicate threads on this so I have merged them into one.

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Talk about service depends on your dealer only one left in N.E. is Daves' RV in Conn. although there are some over in N.Y.
Daves has had good response from some RV's here.
With your Essex how was your service?
Any time I wanted something done right a visit to Newmar was in order most recalls were done by dealers in N.E. with out problems.
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THANKS! I am only looking at new coaches. This is mostly for my son and weekend family stuff. I have had an Essex with comfort drive. It would be unreasonable to expect most coaches to ride as well. I am very interested in the satisfaction with build and service.
Having owned an Essex you know how good the high line coaches are, and how good the service is. The standard line quality and service is the same, at least in our experience. Our coach cost more than the competitors but had the floorplan we liked and fit and finish were great! As 007 said the coaches are all built on the same line with the same quality components.

We have had our share of issues, but Newmar stepped up and handled them well, even the ones that occurred way out of warranty (the coach is at Newmar now, they are almost done replacing the sidewalls and jacks). The dealers we worked with had no trouble getting Newmar to pay for correcting issues discovered under warranty as well.

Regarding ride and handling, our shorter wheelbase coach needed some help but I've noticed they are building most coaches on longer wheelbases now. The Cheap Handling Fix and a rear trackbar makes our coach drive much better. I'm sure if we installed Koni shocks the ride would be even better than with the Bilsteins that came on the coach.

I noticed your profile says you live in New England, we live north of Boston now. As 007 said, there aren't many dealers in the area. When we bought the coach we lived in NC. There weren't many dealers there either. We decided to look across the country and strongly considered factory delivery (what Newmar calls VIP delivery now). I would definitely pay the extra for factory delivery now that I've been to Newmar and experienced their service.

Newmar had no issue getting service performed at non-Newmar dealers or rv service shops. I was talking with the service person at J&D Power Equipment in Deerfield NH, they mentioned they have done warranty service on Newmar coaches.
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Welcome aboard. Hope you find what you're looking for. Don't know about gassers, but the Fleetwood DPs have been very well received by owners and the industry in both quality and service. i would think the same would be true with their gassers also.
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