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Old 08-23-2019, 08:34 AM   #15
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I pulled into a Meijer fuel island to fuel the toad at the center pump. When I went to reach for the handle noticed it was yellow and then read the pump, it was kerosene. Would not have worked well in the Tracker!
Guess a lot of folks here in Michigan have kerosene heater or something.
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Always read the pump label.
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Old 08-23-2019, 03:09 PM   #17
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Went to fill up in Oregon with Diesel pusher. The attendant came over and grabbed the pump handle of regular fuel and said how much. Never assume always make sure or it will be a long day.
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Oregon law requires an attendant to pump fuel. I thought it did not apply to diesel.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:53 PM   #19
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Saw a post once from someone who fueled up his diesel pusher at a BP station. Used the green handle assuming it was diesel but it was NOT diesel. Turns out that green is BPs corporate color. The yellow handle was diesel. He was furious that he pumped regular gas and wanted to sue the station. It was his fault for not verifying what he was pumping. Always look at the pump not the color of the handle.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:55 PM   #20
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No - there have been fuel inspection checkpoints where they will require every diesel vehicle to pull over and have their fuel tank dipped with a test strip.

This happens more in heavy farm country than on the highway, but it CAN happen. Don't run red fuel, it just isn't worth the risk.

All diesel fuel in the USA is the same grade, and ALL of it is ULSD 40 cetane rotgut.

Most diesel now has about 10% biodiesel in it - this is a GOOD thing as it adds to the lubricity of the fuel and increases the cetane rating, making the engine run better. Every engine can handle up to 15% biodiesel, the manufacturers are only issuing concerns about high concentrations. The 10-15% is being required by the states and done at the refinery level so it will not cause problems.

As has been said before, NEVER TRUST THE HANDLE COLOR. Always check the pump before taking on a drop! Gasoline or E85 handles might fit... But your engine will certainly not like what comes from those, no matter what the handle color was.
That's a real knee slapper. Never in my 68 years have I ever saw fuel inspection of any vehicles. Where do people come up with this stuff?
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Oregon law requires an attendant to pump fuel. I thought it did not apply to diesel.
It don't apply to diesel.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:41 AM   #22
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That's a real knee slapper. Never in my 68 years have I ever saw fuel inspection of any vehicles. Where do people come up with this stuff?
It may be a knee slapper to you, but I can assure you they occur. They are very common in agricultural areas where lots of red dye diesel is used. Get caught with red dye diesel in a road vehicle and it will be an expensive lesson. I have had my tank "sticked" on multiple occasions.
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Not every state or station is the same.

Here in Wisconsin there are often two types of diesel being sold at the truck lanes. Last week I was at a Kwik Trip and their pumps had 'regular' diesel on one nozzle which was 10% biodiesel. The other nozzle was 'premium' diesel which did not have the biodiesel.

In the colder season you'll often see one of the nozzles selling fuel with more winter additives in it than the other, which is really handy if you're driving in sub-zero conditions.

Always pays to read the labels. If you're ever unsure what's in the tank ask the attendant BEFORE you pump it in.
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That's a real knee slapper. Never in my 68 years have I ever saw fuel inspection of any vehicles. Where do people come up with this stuff?
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It may be a knee slapper to you, but I can assure you they occur. They are very common in agricultural areas where lots of red dye diesel is used. Get caught with red dye diesel in a road vehicle and it will be an expensive lesson. I have had my tank "sticked" on multiple occasions.
Yep, if you go to many of the livestock auctions (sale barns) and watch, every now and then you will see the revenue enforcement guys out "dipping tanks". Word gets out pretty quickly once they show up.

That dye is very tenacious. It can be diluted and diluted, but will still show light red after many tankfuls.

Just because you live a very secluded life and aren't aware of some enforcement activities that have been going on for years doesn't mean that everyone else is stupid.
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I have to chuckle. At the very moment I write this the motor carrier police are stopping diesel trucks and checking their fuel tanks (among other things I’d guess) just a little less than a mile from where I’m sitting. Been going on for over an hour. Whether they’d check an rv I don’t know, but I’m not about to be the one to put myself in position to worry if they did. Heck, I’d probably be tempted to talk them into weighing my four corners as long as we are all there.
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Oregon law requires an attendant to pump fuel. I thought it did not apply to diesel.


Provided the station allows it, you can pump your own diesel in Oregon. Not many do though and you have to watch them like a hawk to make sure the don’t pump you full of gas.
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I remember back when times were hard and many of us heated with Kerosene. The trucks kept filling with the cheaper Kero (no road tax) and many stores got in trouble. They had to erect barriers around the pumps and a lot of folks came in and filled many many cans to take home and fill trucks.
stations around here fixed that problem by installing hoses that won't even reach the ground. AND raised the price up to where it is Equal to diesel.
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How you going to be caught? Have some lazyass bureaucrat crawl in your fuel tank with a flashlight.
In California they set up inspection stations off the major highways and actually dip into your fuel tank to check it.

My daughter works in Agriculture and travels to many farms. She has run into a couple of them.
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