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Old 06-07-2008, 02:24 PM   #1
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The other half of my trip to the carpenters shop was to remodel the drawers that hold the kitchen utensils on the right side of the sink. While conviently placed, they were not designed well. The first thing the DW noticed when we walked in the rig the first time was that there was no handle on the top drawer blank. At the time I assumed that there was an obstruction behind the blank so there was no drawer. Even so they should have put a handle on it. Within a few weeks I has ordered one from Winnie. It sat in a drawer for over a year! But adding the handle greatly improved the look of the set of drawers.



Later, a buddy and I were poking around the cabinets and discovered a huge amount of wasted space behind the drawer bank. Not only would a top drawer fit, by removing the plywood backing that Winnie had fabbed into the cabinet, we were able to increase the depth of the drawer from 10" deep to 20" deep! I am assuming too that Winnie did not put in the top drawer because it was not as deep as the other drawers. Here is what the wife found to do with her new "skinny" drawer.



The drawer is about 3" deep and holds her knife block perfectly.

To gain the maxium benefit from the new drawers, we built an angle on the back of the drawer to accomidate a cabinet brace in the back of the cabinet. The right side of the drawer is 17" deep, and the left corner is 20" deep. The extra space was HUGE for the DW storing her kitchen goods.



I am assuming that is why Winnie chopped the drawers off so short to start with. Make it easy and quick and move on.

Before most of these kitchen gadgets wouldn't even fit in the drawer, let alone all the extra stuff that she needs.



As a finish to the drawer project, this is was a skinny 6" wide cabinet that is about 23" tall and had no shelves. To make it more usefull, we added 3 shelves with a 1" lip on the front to hold all the DW's cooking spices. It freed up a lot of other shelf space that was better used for larger grocery items.



I applaud Winnie for making a cabinet here at all. It is wedged in next to the drawer bank, and is triangle shaped. The shelves were cut to angle, and fitted in the space. The fronts were added after the shelves were in place (a geometry problem). But Dan, my carpenter did a great job figuring it out.

All in all we recovered a great deal of usable space, with not too much effort. Dan made the drawer bases in his shop and reattached the original fronts. All of these projects, the kitchen drawers and spice shelf, and the bedroom clothes hamper were done in one day. The hamper took an additional day because we had to order the front door and had the cabinet color matched for stain. Well worth the time and money.

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The other half of my trip to the carpenters shop was to remodel the drawers that hold the kitchen utensils on the right side of the sink. While conviently placed, they were not designed well. The first thing the DW noticed when we walked in the rig the first time was that there was no handle on the top drawer blank. At the time I assumed that there was an obstruction behind the blank so there was no drawer. Even so they should have put a handle on it. Within a few weeks I has ordered one from Winnie. It sat in a drawer for over a year! But adding the handle greatly improved the look of the set of drawers.



Later, a buddy and I were poking around the cabinets and discovered a huge amount of wasted space behind the drawer bank. Not only would a top drawer fit, by removing the plywood backing that Winnie had fabbed into the cabinet, we were able to increase the depth of the drawer from 10" deep to 20" deep! I am assuming too that Winnie did not put in the top drawer because it was not as deep as the other drawers. Here is what the wife found to do with her new "skinny" drawer.



The drawer is about 3" deep and holds her knife block perfectly.

To gain the maxium benefit from the new drawers, we built an angle on the back of the drawer to accomidate a cabinet brace in the back of the cabinet. The right side of the drawer is 17" deep, and the left corner is 20" deep. The extra space was HUGE for the DW storing her kitchen goods.



I am assuming that is why Winnie chopped the drawers off so short to start with. Make it easy and quick and move on.

Before most of these kitchen gadgets wouldn't even fit in the drawer, let alone all the extra stuff that she needs.



As a finish to the drawer project, this is was a skinny 6" wide cabinet that is about 23" tall and had no shelves. To make it more usefull, we added 3 shelves with a 1" lip on the front to hold all the DW's cooking spices. It freed up a lot of other shelf space that was better used for larger grocery items.



I applaud Winnie for making a cabinet here at all. It is wedged in next to the drawer bank, and is triangle shaped. The shelves were cut to angle, and fitted in the space. The fronts were added after the shelves were in place (a geometry problem). But Dan, my carpenter did a great job figuring it out.

All in all we recovered a great deal of usable space, with not too much effort. Dan made the drawer bases in his shop and reattached the original fronts. All of these projects, the kitchen drawers and spice shelf, and the bedroom clothes hamper were done in one day. The hamper took an additional day because we had to order the front door and had the cabinet color matched for stain. Well worth the time and money.

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Old 06-07-2008, 04:19 PM   #3
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Nice job once again Sarge. Keep up the good work and we might promote you to Capt. of Customization
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Although an awesome carpentry job Sarge, I'm disapointed...a guy has to have a junk drawer and I don't see it
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Hey thanks guys! My junk drawer is all the outside compartments!!

Since we started to full time, I am really appreciating all the extra nooks and corners that I can find. It seems like I have something to put in every one of em.......
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Another nice job Sarge. I'm always amazed at the wasted space in the rigs. I guess a piece of plywood covering the opening is cheaper than a shelf or drawer.

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You are right Joe. I guess there is no real monetary benefit for the designers to figure out how to provide as much storage as possible for the owners. I mean the cabinets all looked great, but those 10" long drawers were laughable.

I also forgot to mention, we had to put on new drawer glides to accomidate the longer drawers so they would pull out to the full extension. Not a big deal though, they were a standard size.
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You beat me to the punch Sarge. I was going to ask about the possibility of full extension slides on the new drawers. Nice job. We did the same thing to the drawers below our dinette seats. The drawers are twice as long as before and the heavy duty full extension slides allow my DW to put heavy items in the drawers without worry. The slides also have a pull closed feature that engages when the drawer is within a couple of inches of being closed. So far it seems to have enough pull to keep them closed while driving down the road.
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The drawer closers are a nice touch Gary. It was amazing how much space it added to the kitchen area by increasing the capacity of the drawers. So much more stuff fit into the drawers that used to take up space elsewhere.

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Sarge,
You just gotta be fiddlin with something don't you Sarge. What a great job, they look great and more space to boot.

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Thanks Mark,

I love to fiddle if it makes it better. However, it does keep be outta trouble......
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