Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > MH-General Discussions & Problems
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-26-2015, 06:33 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Nomad Mike's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Nomadic - Currently Near Lassen NF
Posts: 674
Ladder Storage OK?

I've seen quite a few videos and photos of people using their rear ladder for carrying an additional ladder, chairs and bikes.

How much weight can you trust is safe on the ladder? Bouncing on rough roads would increase the forces to probably many more pounds than we weight.

I have a Little Giant that weights in at 45lbs, would this be safe or over the top?
__________________

__________________
Luna was born in 2005 and is a Winnebago Journey 34H w/ CAT C7 350
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Nomad Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 06-26-2015, 08:39 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Rogers, AR
Posts: 436
I expect 45# would be just fine, but the vibration will eventually take its toll on the mounting points. Personally I think coaches start to look junky with a bunch of stuff tied to them, but a lot of people do it.
__________________

__________________
alank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2015, 08:47 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
dsbike's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hampstead, NC
Posts: 1,391
I recently acquired a bike rack for the ladder. I am currently using it but I too am concerned on the long term use. My 2 bikes weigh 20 lbs & 32 lbs So I suspect with the weight of the bikes, rack & straps I have 55 lbs there. I am working on a way to mount the bikes to my car hauler, it will make them easier to mount, access, & store when we are parked. We just finished a 1500 mile trip with the bikes on the ladder rack with no problem & I can see them with my rear view camera. There was no movement at all. I have them very tightly secured.
__________________
Dan Sees, Full Timing in the MH & Part timing in a S&B In Hampstead, NC
2013 Winnebago Journey 42e, 2014 Featherlite Car Hauler 3110 17.5', 2008 Mazda MX5,
2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser
dsbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 12:03 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
FIRE UP's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by alank View Post
I expect 45# would be just fine, but the vibration will eventually take its toll on the mounting points. Personally I think coaches start to look junky with a bunch of stuff tied to them, but a lot of people do it.
Other than the fact that I don't agree with the 45# part, the rest of this answer is right on! Without getting too technical, there is what's called "Static" load and, "Dynamic" load.

Static load is, hanging that 45# ladder on your coach, and not driving it anywhere. Dynamic load is, that 45# ladder is now 55#-60# each and every time you hit a bump, pot hole, concrete seam in a freeway, drive way etc. You see, we all weigh our weight, statically as we stand in one place. But, if we JUMP and land on something, we weigh considerably more during that landing. So, those mounting points on your coach ladder, are seriously tested each and every time you hit a bump etc.

We don't hang anything on our ladder. It's not made for that kind of tormentation. I don't care how many do it, to me, it looks just like Jed Clampett (pretty sure most of you know who that is) cruising down the road. There are multiple ways to carry ladders and, there are also multiple kinds of ladders that fold up, collapse and otherwise, GET SMALLER for storage that, there's no need to hang them back there.

But, it's amazing to me that folks pay a substantial amount for a very nice coach, and even a nice (and expensive) toad, only to screw it all up by hanging a bunch of junk i.e. bikes, ladders, chairs, other stuff, all over the rear ladder. OH well, it's their coach. Their choice.
Scott
__________________
2004 ITASCA HORIZON 36GD, 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Toad '08 GL 1800 Gold Wing
Retired-29.5 yrs, SDFD, Ham - KI6OND
Me, Karla and the Sophie character, (mini Schnauzer)
FIRE UP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 01:00 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
dennis45's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: BC
Posts: 6,467
Ya, and I'll never figure out why some folks buy a perfectly good batch of fries and then screw them all up with Ketchup.
Sorry, I already used this one on another thread but just couldn't resist in this case.
__________________
Dennis & Carol
2003, 4006, 41' DutchStar, Spartan, ISC 8.3L W/BanksPower - 2013 Honda CRV, BlueOx Baseplate, Aventa Bar & Patriot Brake. And the 04 Bird, Sunshine Car.
dennis45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 03:09 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Nomad Mike's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Nomadic - Currently Near Lassen NF
Posts: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis45 View Post
Ya, and I'll never figure out why some folks buy a perfectly good batch of fries and then screw them all up with Ketchup.
Sorry, I already used this one on another thread but just couldn't resist in this case.
Fries look and taste better with ketchup.
__________________
Luna was born in 2005 and is a Winnebago Journey 34H w/ CAT C7 350
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Nomad Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 03:30 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
ChasA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Apex, NC
Posts: 1,857
Yeah, I prefer vinegar on my fries.
__________________
2010 Winnebago Journey Express 34Y
2010 Freightliner XCS (mfd 9/'09)
'07 Saturn Vue V6
ChasA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 03:40 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Nomad Mike's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Nomadic - Currently Near Lassen NF
Posts: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by FIRE UP View Post
Other than the fact that I don't agree with the 45# part, the rest of this answer is right on! Without getting too technical, there is what's called "Static" load and, "Dynamic" load.

Static load is, hanging that 45# ladder on your coach, and not driving it anywhere. Dynamic load is, that 45# ladder is now 55#-60# each and every time you hit a bump, pot hole, concrete seam in a freeway, drive way etc. You see, we all weigh our weight, statically as we stand in one place. But, if we JUMP and land on something, we weigh considerably more during that landing. So, those mounting points on your coach ladder, are seriously tested each and every time you hit a bump etc.

We don't hang anything on our ladder. It's not made for that kind of tormentation. I don't care how many do it, to me, it looks just like Jed Clampett (pretty sure most of you know who that is) cruising down the road. There are multiple ways to carry ladders and, there are also multiple kinds of ladders that fold up, collapse and otherwise, GET SMALLER for storage that, there's no need to hang them back there.

But, it's amazing to me that folks pay a substantial amount for a very nice coach, and even a nice (and expensive) toad, only to screw it all up by hanging a bunch of junk i.e. bikes, ladders, chairs, other stuff, all over the rear ladder. OH well, it's their coach. Their choice.
Scott
I'm already aware of the differences between static and dynamic loads which is why I asked the question. So restating the question, how much dynamic load does 45 lbs create and can the ladder handle that weight? The ladder must be able to handle an adult's weight, so then does the dynamic weight of 45 lbs in a moving bouncing rig exceed that?

But since this is also not a weight that only applies a force in one direction, due to the bouncing that dynamic weight will be applied in multiple directions and will vary the weight depending on forces applied in that direction.

I would liked to hear from others who have used their ladder for carrying bikes and ladders and if they have had any issues.

I will be full time soon and want a reliable and strong ladder that is not only an extension ladder but a step ladder. The included step ladder with my rig is not tall enough and I've heard and read those accordion type ladders are death traps. I need the internal space as I will be carrying more as a full timer. If experience says this is a bad idea, I will store it in the storage bay.

As for the looks of it, that really was not the question at all. But I agree that some go overboard and throw stuff up on the roof too and hang all kinds of gear off the stern. Including toads with all kinds of stuff on it and in it. I feel that this ladder strapped in tightly looks pretty well and not junkie at all. My roommate thought it would look bad too, but she said that it does look good. Sometimes necessity out weights vanity.

So I will have some ketchup on my fries.
__________________
Luna was born in 2005 and is a Winnebago Journey 34H w/ CAT C7 350
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Nomad Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 03:46 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Nomad Mike's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Nomadic - Currently Near Lassen NF
Posts: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasA View Post
Yeah, I prefer vinegar on my fries.
My roommate likes mayonnaise
__________________
Luna was born in 2005 and is a Winnebago Journey 34H w/ CAT C7 350
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Nomad Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 07:29 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
dennis45's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: BC
Posts: 6,467
I would liked to hear from others who have used their ladder for carrying bikes and ladders and if they have had any issues.

I will be full time soon and want a reliable and strong ladder that is not only an extension ladder but a step ladder. The included step ladder with my rig is not tall enough and I've heard and read those accordion type ladders are death traps. I need the internal space as I will be carrying more as a full timer. If experience says this is a bad idea, I will store it in the storage bay.

As for the looks of it, that really was not the question at all. But I agree that some go overboard and throw stuff up on the roof too and hang all kinds of gear off the stern. Including toads with all kinds of stuff on it and in it. I feel that this ladder strapped in tightly looks pretty well and not junkie at all. My roommate thought it would look bad too, but she said that it does look good. Sometimes necessity out weights vanity.

So I will have some ketchup on my fries. [/QUOTE]


Ugh, Ketchup, soggy fries, gross.
Closer to the topic, I have carried a 6' Aluminum step ladder for a few years hung on my ladder with a bracket I bought from Camping World. I have it hung upside down so it does not interfere with opening of the engine hatch. I have a HD Bungee Cord to keep it steady and a Cable Type Cycle Lock so nobody steals it, as happened to a friend. So far the ladder brackets have not come loose so I'll continue not using Ketchup on my fries and carrying my step ladder on the MH Ladder. BTW, I carry it because it cannot put my front and side sunscreens on without it.
__________________
Dennis & Carol
2003, 4006, 41' DutchStar, Spartan, ISC 8.3L W/BanksPower - 2013 Honda CRV, BlueOx Baseplate, Aventa Bar & Patriot Brake. And the 04 Bird, Sunshine Car.
dennis45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 10:40 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Newcastle West, Ireland
Posts: 392
i tie my ladder to the ladder with fries covered in ketchup
__________________
'98 Southwind 34L, too many cameras, old hat, young heart.
May the light be with you.
Mentor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2015, 10:59 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 579
I have carried a lightweight aluminum stepladder for several seasons without incident.. I do agree it looks tacky, but handy.
__________________
08 Diesel Bounder 38V
phranc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 07:15 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: st.charles mo.
Posts: 1,194
The ladder on my MH is rated at 250# and I have a ladder mounted bike carrier that I hang my ladder on. IMHO I don't think a 25# ladder will harm it.
__________________
speed racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 07:37 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Dtwallace's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,144
I'm sure you would be hard pressed to get a 45lbs latter on anything else of that static weight to cause any damage to your 250lbs rated coach mounted latter.

Hang what you need back there, just keep an eye on the mounting bolts, rivets, or what ever is securing your latter.

Also, the ride in that area is not that dramatic as to bounce anything much anyway, at least I know this to be the case on a DP.
__________________

__________________
Dan & Loretta, US Army Retired Aero Scout Pilot
2012 Fleetwood Providence 42P Class A/DP
Spartan Chassis, 8.9L Cummins 450HP
Dtwallace is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
storage



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rear ladder rack for chaise lounge JKTexas Sprinter Chassis Forum 1 11-18-2014 09:27 AM
Newmar Bay Star Storage Doors zrobotman Newmar Owner's Forum 10 11-05-2014 09:39 AM
Winter Storage Questions Frankie Z MH-General Discussions & Problems 2 09-07-2014 11:13 AM
Snowbirds: Coach/Toad storage for December/Xmas TinMan Trvlr Class A Motorhome Discussions 1 08-31-2014 02:13 PM
Water leaks into your storage bays 2005 Sleepy Newmar Owner's Forum 16 04-12-2014 06:45 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.