Join CruisersForum Today
Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Leveling jacks won't retract
Old 01-03-2010, 06:18 PM   #1
Johnw is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
Leveling jacks wouldn't retract when we went to move MH today. Extended them some more (mistake). Now really up in the air. Any suggestions appreciated.

JohnW

99 Discovery 36T

__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 01-03-2010, 06:34 PM   #2
Avalondanes is offline
Senior Member
Avalondanes's Avatar
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Salisbury,North Carolina
Posts: 230
Need more info. What jacks do you have, HWH,Power Gear....hyd or electric?

Richard

__________________
2006 Revolution 40L, 400HP Cat C9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Aero-Turbine Muffler
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-03-2010, 07:13 PM   #3
Johnw is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
I believe they're Power Gear but cann't find any info in owner's manual except "4 point hydraulic jacks"
__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-03-2010, 07:50 PM   #4
Stevegd007 is offline
Senior Member
Stevegd007's Avatar
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego County, CA
Posts: 362
If hydraulic , look for the pump. Follow the hose back from the jacks. At the pump you should find a valve to release the fluid pressure. Once the pressure is off the jacks, you can push up the jacks. All this is under the RV work for the most part.

Another Idea is most all the jacks are made by HWH or in your case Power Gear. Google the site, call the manufacturer. You can get lots of advise from them that is helpful.
__________________
Steve & Leslie
Winnebago Adventurer 38T
Honda CR-V "Toad" w/Falcon 2 towbar
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-03-2010, 08:18 PM   #5
Johnw is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
Thanks Steve - checked Power Gear site. Their manual says fuse on control panel (mine dosent appear to have one there - pulled the panel and nothing but circuit board). Or fuse within 18" of pump. Will check it out tomorrow and also look for release valve.

JohnW
__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-04-2010, 10:50 AM   #6
Johnw is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
Update - jacks still down at uncomfortable level. Four solenoids at pump. Followed wires but could not locate any inline fuses. Don't see any manual release valve. Coach is 99 model but pump appears to be 98 model (part 500351, date 9806163059). Called Power Gear but they only refer you to dealer - no tech support by phone or net any more. Seems like there must be a fuse somewhere in the system. Could I run 12v from a battery to the individual solenoids to release the pressure? I believe the retract switch supplies ground to complete the circuit - so if a fuse is blown it would be on the hot wire? I'm sure there is a simple solution for someone who is familiar with the system. Called Beaudry in Tucson but they are too busy to help.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-04-2010, 02:46 PM   #7
Avalondanes is offline
Senior Member
Avalondanes's Avatar
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Salisbury,North Carolina
Posts: 230
Try this link:http://www.powergearus.com/documents...ice_Manual.pdf
They still have tech info on there web site.

Richard
__________________
2006 Revolution 40L, 400HP Cat C9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Aero-Turbine Muffler
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-04-2010, 03:55 PM   #8
hillbilly3 is offline
Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 34
If its like mine, the fuses are on the circuit board next to eight pin connector, they are hard to get out because there wedged between the connector and the circuit board that is vertical from the main circuit board. they pull straight out, a pair of needle nose pliers will be required. They look specialized, so you can probally only get them from Power Gear. Have you tried releasing the parking brake? This will send it into emergency retract, which I think overrides the circuit board and releases the pressure. (The fuses are black cylinders with very small print on top)
__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-04-2010, 04:35 PM   #9
Batman_777 is offline
Senior Member
Batman_777's Avatar
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 953
I've seen something similar posted on iRV2. I think the problem was a release solennoid, switch, release valve or something. Simple fix
__________________
Fleetwood Providence 2008 40e
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel 6.0L 2006
Honda CR-V 2006
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-04-2010, 09:21 PM   #10
justimagination is offline
Senior Member
justimagination's Avatar
Fleetwood Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Monroe, Ga USA
Posts: 541
Johnw...........there are two overides to release pressure beside the control panel. The emergency brake (as previously mentioned) by hillbilly3, as well as the gearshift selector. You can start the engine with no control on the jacks, but when you move the gearshift to any position other than PARK, or release the PARKBRAKE, the jacks will retract, or they should.
I would leave the key out of the ignition, release the EMERGENCY BRAKE then reapply it, start the engine, take it out of PARK, and release the EMERGENCY BRAKE, hopefully everything will go to normal. Good luck,
David G.
PS, keep us posted, ok.
__________________
_____________________________________________
David & Cheryl USAF PROUDLY 1959-1963
1997 Fleetwood Southwind 37Y, 460 ENGINE on FORD chassis, Power Platform with Tag Axle.
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-05-2010, 05:03 AM   #11
Avalondanes is offline
Senior Member
Avalondanes's Avatar
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Salisbury,North Carolina
Posts: 230
Johnw,
If you raised the coach, that means that the fuse is not blown, you have power to the control board. You can try the ways others have posted, release the park brake etc. The solenoids should have a center that is 1/4 turn, spring loaded. that is manual release for each circuit, one jack at a time. The link to power gear manual shows this on diagrams.
hope this helps, good luck.

Richard
__________________
2006 Revolution 40L, 400HP Cat C9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Aero-Turbine Muffler
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-05-2010, 07:35 AM   #12
Bob (WA0MQE) is offline
Senior Member
Bob (WA0MQE)'s Avatar


Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Between Colorado Springs, CO & Fulton, TX
Posts: 1,429
Blog Entries: 1
Johnw... don't know if you have the schematic and/or component location manual/s. The switch on the control panel that says RETRACT is a simple switch that controls a SOLENOID that should be somewhere on or near the Pump/Oil Reservoir. This solenoid is what releases the pressure and allows the springs on the jacks to retract. See if you can find this Solenoid and check if it's getting power and/or a ground when you press the switch. At the very least you should be able to manually engage the solenoid and relieve the pressure on the jacks.

Be careful under that motorhome though, make sure you have plenty of room for yourself if those jacks release, and make sure the wheels are blocked.
__________________
Bob 2006 Monaco Camelot 40PDQ
US Navy Carrier Battlegroup 1959/1963
Summer in Colorado, Winter Texas Gulf Coast
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-05-2010, 08:56 AM   #13
wa8yxm is offline
Senior Member


Workhorse Chassis Owner
Damon Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8,085
Well if you have 4 valves I do not THINK it is a power gear (however who knows)

I know on Power gear jacks if you don't lube 'em as per the manual they don't retract well.. They will let you down, but they stay down on the ground.

I will ask a question.. I understand some power gear jack systems the valves can be opened manually, (in the event of a control failure) On mine the valve solenoids do have a plastic screw on cap that can be removed.. But what to do next is not obvious.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 01-05-2010, 03:07 PM   #14
Johnw is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
Update 2 - Thanks everyone for input. Problem does not seem electrical. Voltmeter shows 12v at all solenoid connections at block on resevoir at pump. There are actually 3 jack solenoids, one each for rear jacks and one for front two jacks. They are square and located at the top of the block. Directly below them is a round solenoid. I'm assuming this operates a dump valve. It is powered when the retract switch is hit. I also tried the parking brake and transmission over-ride procedure but nothing happened to jacks. Manually bled the rear jacks by disconnecting hoses at pump (a little messy but not to bad) and both jacks retracted. For fun??? hit the retract switch again and both front jacks partially retracted and both rear jacks partially extended. I believe this indicates fluid at all jacks is equalizing at the jacks and not dumping back to the resevoir - thus stuck or bad solenoid even though its powered. I'm assuming the round solenoid operates a dump valve. It has a nut on the end and does not appear to have any manual operation (maybe unscrew the nut and turn the solenoid? I don't know.) Anyway, I bled all jacks so they are now up and I can move the coach. The jack extended light remains on - probably a pressure switch somewhere. I'll pull the pump fuse so they should not extend again and there is little fluid left in the jack lines. Now to find a Power Gear knowledgable person who can explain if and how to repair the dump solenoid and/or valve. Thanks everyone again for responses.

Johnw

__________________
  Reply With Quote
   
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Problem with HWH automatic leveling jacks on my 97 Newmar Mountainaire genegunnels Newmar Owner's Forum 21 10-17-2009 01:49 AM
Jacks retract if unloaded jupoa Class A Motorhome Discussions 5 06-05-2009 08:14 AM
My Power Gear Leveling Jacks are down and will not retract lascar MH-General Discussions & Problems 14 02-02-2009 05:02 AM
HWH Leveling Jacks Problem further MH-General Discussions & Problems 4 10-21-2006 10:38 AM

Download our Mobile App






1% for the Planet
» Upcoming Rallies
No events scheduled in
the next 365 days.
» iRV2 on facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:52 PM.