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Old 04-26-2013, 07:46 AM   #29
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Tire Age!

Tire age is suppose to be a key factor. MICHELLIN recomends replacement in 6 years and by no means greater than 10 years. Can anyone reply to this post regarding the DOT code on thier tires and if they checked that they were not older than 6 years. The last number on tje DOT code is the year. I would be vary curiose as to these blow outs occuring due ro tire age.
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Btw Good Sam would only deliver a Good Year tire of the same size. They apparently have a contract with a specific supplier and Michelin was not an option even though I was paying for the replacement and labour to mount it. I did not like the idea of mixing manufacturers tires on a dual, and instead drove several hours in the toad to find the exact Michelin replacement.
Ours are XZE (EZE2 now on front) but Good Sam sent RSA with two to our campsite a couple of weeks ago in Silver Springs, Fl.

We did not have a blowout, DW noticed a linear bulge in the right front about three inches long. All six are low mileage but pushing eight years old so we planned to replace all of them this summer anyway.

BTW if you are not already a FMCA member the savings on two new Michelins is more than the cost to join and a good outfit too.
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MICHELLIN recomends replacement in 6 years and by no means greater than 10 years. Can anyone reply to this post regarding the DOT code on thier tires and if they checked that they were not older than 6 years.
Could you give us the document or link that Michelin recommends replacement in 6 years. I don't think you will find that from them anyplace.

My 2 XRV blow outs were by the DOT date 4 years 8 months and 6 years 1 month old.
Replaced all for G670's at 6 years 9 months old or less for the 2 blow out replacements.

My 6 275/70/22.5 G670's by Dot date are now from 8 years to 8 years 3 months old today. Replacement to be done May 2015 if no blow outs before that time.
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MICHELLIN recomends replacement in 6 years and by no means greater than 10 years. .
Welcome to the forum, but please provide some back up for this statement. I've been involved in a lot of Michelin discussions and have never heard of this before.

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10 years but have them annually inspected after 5.
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Some Michelin tires have a 6 year warranty, maybe that's what you are referring to Randazj?
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Some Michelin tires have a 6 year warranty, maybe that's what you are referring to Randazj?
The information on replacement in 10 years comes with the pamphlet from Michellin. The other user hear does mention correctly inspect them in 5. My issue with that is there are usually no visual signs of damage and they still blow out. That information was acertained reading countless complaints. I need to replace mine and I have read so many folks who checked the age, pressure specification after weighing thier rig, and even temp, yet they still had a blow out. I am really thinking of changing these out for Good Year with a slight size difference. Iam an engineer you bet I will be checking the specifications. I would like to know however, has anyone done this and what is their experience?
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That made me pull out my Michelin manual. It states on the very first page:

"Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually."

Prior to that statement in the manual it states that there should be regular inspections and inflation pressure maintenance by the consumer.

The average consumer is not going to be able to inspect tires as a specialist would, and that would require dismounting of the tire and even possible x Ray techniques.

Consider the lives that are depending on X number of 8" square pieces of rubber on the road.
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Consider the lives that are depending on X number of 8" square pieces of rubber on the road.
I will bet they are more lives that are in more danger of drunk drivers then a blow out.

Instead of using scare tactics. Why not advise everyone to watch the Michelin video "The Critical Factor" on what to do if a blow out happens.

Use that advice and protect those lives that may be in danger from drivers that don't know what to do. When a blow out happens. It does work and all tires don't wait until after they are 6 years old to blow.
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I will bet they are more lives that are in more danger of drunk drivers then a blow out.

Instead of using scare tactics. Why not advise everyone to watch the Michelin video "The Critical Factor" on what to do if a blow out happens.

Use that advice and protect those lives that may be in danger from drivers that don't know what to do. When a blow out happens. It does work and all tires don't wait until after they are 6 years old to blow.
I saw thia video and I do recomend all watch it. I think its pretty ironic that Michellin made the video. The most important thing I learned from the video is " IN A BLOW OUT DO NOT BRAKE OR SLOW DOWN, ACCELERATE SLIGHTLY TO REGAIN CONTROL". I still think great to know whar to do, but even better to prevent.
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Recently while driving north on I5 in California I had the unfortunate experience of a tire blowout on the right rear outside tire on my 2004 National Dolphin. There was only 12,000 miles on the 2 year old tire. The sidewall exploded outward releasing all of the air immediately. The defective area was on the inside of the rear right duals. Hard to see unless you crawl under the chassis and are specifically looking for a defect.

Now before all of you jump in with all of the things I probably did wrong, here are the facts:

- I travel with a large AC powered compressor and check all tires regularly.

- this is a 32ft motorhome on a Workhorse chassis, it is not overloaded, and based on the manufacturers recommended pressures and information from Michelin's website the pressure was set at 95lbs.

- the tires are always covered when the motorhome is stationary for more than two days.

- there was no abnormal wear on the tires, tread wear was minimal, tires look like new.

The other tires were all purchased at the same time, nothing apparently wrong with them so far, but I will be keeping a close watch for any defects from now on.

Btw Good Sam would only deliver a Good Year tire of the same size. They apparently have a contract with a specific supplier and Michelin was not an option even though I was paying for the replacement and labour to mount it. I did not like the idea of mixing manufacturers tires on a dual, and instead drove several hours in the toad to find the exact Michelin replacement.

Have any of you had similar failures with the sidewalls on your Michelin XRV tires?
Well I finally heard back from Michelin. They are prepared to send me a cheque for $120 to offset my costs of $675 ($500 for the tire and $175 to have a guy mount it) Apparently there is no way their tires could have a sidewall failure, it has to be something that got into the space between the dual tires and punctured it. The fact that I always inspect the tires when travelling and check and adjust the tire pressures when cold before every trip, doesnt matter. Somehow I must have missed a rock or whatever wedged in the tires. Ya, whatever.
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Don't get me started on Michelin RV tires. I bought a new Winnebago Journey in 2000 outfitted with Michelin tires I thought I had the best. The second and third summer I had three zipper sidewall blow outs. Michelin would not warranty they said the tires were under inflated and I know for a fact they were not. Michelin said to keep the tires inflated to the maximum pressure 100 PSI and that is what I did, after the first blown tire I did not move the coach without checking the pressure. After the fourth blow out on the Michelin tires I changed to Good Year and went up one size. The fourth tire blew on the edge of the tread and there was rust in the steel cords so I attributed that to some sort of damage. From 20,000 mile to 93,000 miles when I traded never had one problem with the Goodyear set of tires. One noted fact when I changed and put two Michelin tires on the from and moved the front to the rear same tire same size but Michelin had changed the Maximum pressure to 110 PSI . I lost a lot of money and the safety factor caused me to write off Michelin as a tire supplier. I have Goodyear on my new coach and I have never had a problem. By the way I increased the pressure to 110 PSI and had no problems for the period of time that I ran the Michelin tires. Michelin will say anything to keep from replacing I will not even run them on my cars as far as I'm concerned Goodyear makes the best tires. I will suggest you Google the tire type and just see what comes up I did and I got rid of them. The tires I took off I destroyed even though most were almost new I was afraid someone would buy them as used possibly have a blowout and get someone killed. All my blowouts were on the rear of the coach thank God.
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To the original poster. i.e. the person who started this thread.
Have you checked the spacing between your dual tires? Whenever I hear of a dual tire blowing on the side facing its mate, I think the tires may be touching and wearing on each other.
BTW, I think Michelin tires are much overrated. There are many brands as good as or better than Michelins. And if you are politically inclined, read up on Michelin's involvement in Viet Nam.
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To the original poster. i.e. the person who started this thread.
Have you checked the spacing between your dual tires? Whenever I hear of a dual tire blowing on the side facing its mate, I think the tires may be touching and wearing on each other.
BTW, I think Michelin tires are much overrated. There are many brands as good as or better than Michelins. And if you are politically inclined, read up on Michelin's involvement in Viet Nam.
Lots of space, the Michelin XRVs are the Workhorse W22 standard 235 width. There is over 2" spacing. I saw no sign of the tire wearing on the outside, it simply exploded out, a big hole through the steel sidewall.
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