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Old 05-04-2013, 01:05 AM   #43
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Of all these tires with side wall breakage, HOW MANY received side wall tire dressing regularly and/or were never covered to protect them from UV sunlight. Tire dressing looks pretty but also dries out the tire.
Dressing is okay on car tires as they wear out in average 3-4 years and not age out..
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The steel belts were extremely rusted inside the tire casing and the sidewall literally showed no signs of foreign object or road debris damage... go figure !
Water got to the cords and caused rust. The rust causes the rubber to be pushed away from the belts and creates weak spots.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:22 AM   #45
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Tire age is suppose to be a key factor. MICHELLIN recomends replacement in 6 years and by no means greater than 10 years. Can anyone reply to this post regarding the DOT code on thier tires and if they checked that they were not older than 6 years. The last number on tje DOT code is the year. I would be vary curiose as to these blow outs occuring due ro tire age.
Here is what Michelin actually says"
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Service Life for RV/Motorhome Tires

The following recommendation applies to RV/Motorhome tires. Tires are composed of various types of material and rubber compounds, having performance properties essential to the proper functioning of the tire itself. These component properties evolve over time. For each tire, this evolution depends upon many factors such as weather, storage conditions, and conditions of use (load, speed, inflation pressure, maintenance, etc.) to which the tire is subjected throughout its life. This service-related evolution varies widely so that accurately predicting the serviceable life of any specific tire in advance is not possible.

That is why, in addition to regular inspections and inflation pressure maintenance by consumers, it is recommended to have RV/Motorhome tires, including spare tires, inspected regularly by a qualified tire specialist, such as a tire dealer, who will assess the tire’s suitability for continued service. Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually.

Consumers are strongly encouraged to be aware not only of their tires’ visual condition and inflation pressure, but also of any change in dynamic performance such as increased air loss, noise or vibration, which could be an indication that the tires need to be removed from service to prevent tire failure.

It is impossible to predict when tires should be replaced based on their calendar age alone. However, the older a tire the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to the service-related evolution or other conditions found upon inspection or detected during use.

While most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years, it is recommended that any tires in service 10 years or more from the date of manufacture, including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a simple precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit.

For tires that were on an original equipment vehicle (i.e., acquired by the consumer on a new vehicle), follow the vehicle manufacturer’s tire replacement recommendations, when specified (but not to exceed 10 years).

The date when a tire was manufactured is located on the sidewall of each tire. Consumers should locate the Department of Transportation or DOT code on the tire that begins with DOT and ends with the week and year of manufacture. For example, a DOT code ending with “0304” indicates a tire made in the 3rd week (Jan) of 2004.
No where do they "recommend replacing them at 6 years"
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Somehow I must have missed a rock or whatever wedged in the tires. Ya, whatever.
Actually it's very possible.
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Well I finally heard back from Michelin. They are prepared to send me a cheque for $120 to offset my costs of $675 ($500 for the tire and $175 to have a guy mount it) Apparently there is no way their tires could have a sidewall failure, it has to be something that got into the space between the dual tires and punctured it. The fact that I always inspect the tires when travelling and check and adjust the tire pressures when cold before every trip, doesnt matter. Somehow I must have missed a rock or whatever wedged in the tires. Ya, whatever.
Having been a former tire dealer including Michelin I can tell you for a fact that Michelin HAS NEVER built a defective tire, it is always CUSTOMER ABUSE. At least that is the corporate story line from Michelin. You are truly one of the lucky ones if you got any money from them.
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No blow out on my RV but my Michelins were cracked after 7 years (tires dated jan of 07). Bought used in 09. Chassis sat somewhere for awhile before Winnebago put the coach on it in late 07. Hated being required to buy these odd size tires (255/80 22.5) G load rated with a blow out history from Michelin so I replaced them with Sumitomo 727s in size 275/70 22.5, H load rated. I got 7 sumitomos (extra unmounted) mounted and balanced for $400 less than the installed FMCA special price for 6 Michelin 255/80. The trip home on Sumitomos was great. Just the blow out on the front right of the towed behind car added drama but my TPMS saved me on that since I otherwise have worn that aluminum wheel to nothing.
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Just replaced my Michelin 235/80 R22.5 with Toyo 245/75 r22.5 (m154). Drove about 50 miles on them. They ride a bit harder but are amazing in the rain. The tread patern prevents thise anoying little rocks from getting inbetween. I still have all kinds of spacing between the duals. The tires I had were nearly 95% at full tread but they were approaching 7 years. Got them installed at Miller Bros in Ft Lauderdale. I will respond back on my next trip to Mi over 1300 miles. About 2600 with all mounted, balanced, valves, etc. No way I was going to make this next trip on those Michellin XRVs.
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It really appears to me that Michelin admits very little, if any, liability in these tire defect issues. Almost like everyone that has had a Michelin tire problem had to be doing something wrong. It makes me very concerned about the future of my tires.
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It really appears to me that Michelin admits very little, if any, liability in these tire defect issues. Almost like everyone that has had a Michelin tire problem had to be doing something wrong. It makes me very concerned about the future of my tires.
I am very concerned, I am a motorcyclist and know full well how important it is to check tire pressures and inspect tires, it is life and death on a bike. I did everything right with these Michelins - and still got a sidewall blowout. Have never experienced anything like this on any tire before this incident. I was told that I must have run it along a curb, that I went over something that poked through the sidewall, that a rock must have wedged between the rear duals. I suppose if they admitted that the tire had a build failure that could open up liabilities. Michelin had the tire dealer mail me a cheque for $120, why didn't they send it to me themselves? How about a replacement tire, this tire had no wear and was 2 years old. Lets see how the other 5 tires do.
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I was a Michelin man most of my life until I had a Michelin truck tire destroy the right side of my truck bed and exhaust pipe… twice. Neither tire was a year old, was inflated to the sidewall pressure and my tongue weight was well under the limit.

The first time I let Discount Tire send the tire to Michelin. Michelin (Janet Stevens) said it was “Run Flat”. She even sent me a stack of pictures of every imaginable type of tire failure.

Of course it was run flat. I can't stop immediately from 65 MPH. The second time, I had an accident reconstruction firm inspect the tire. They concluded the tire was defective. The first time, it cost me well over $1000, the loss of time and the inconvenience. The second time, Michelin paid $1000.

I told DT to remove all 5 Michelin tires and replace them with Goodyear Silent Amour Technology Wranglers and have not had a single flat or failure. They are almost worn out.

The only time a Michelin tire will be under any of my vehicles, is when I run over what's left of one on the road.
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I am trusting that the new XRV's I just installed yesterday will perform as well as what I have had on my coach for the last 8 years.
Sorry to hear of trouble of others.
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I dumped my 2 y/o like new Michelins, years ago, after one of the motorhome forum members was killed in an accident from a zipper-ripped 3 month old Michelin. He had all 6 replaced on his Country Coach. Drove from Calif to somewhere in the midwest, as I recall. Left front blew, and RV left the road. Wife and son were injured.

Failed tire had rusted steel belts. Tell me how that could be, on a brand new tire? Too many others have also had zipper rips and rusted steel belts. Google it. Michelin never owns the problem.
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Michelin thinks that since they are theeee or about theee highest priced, or most popular tire, they are omnipotent. The Denman ST tires on my 5er failed and they paid for the damage to my trailer and truck. All I had to do was send them pictures of the damage.
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I dumped my 2 y/o like new Michelins, years ago, after one of the motorhome forum members was killed in an accident from a zipper-ripped 3 month old Michelin. He had all 6 replaced on his Country Coach. Drove from Calif to somewhere in the midwest, as I recall. Left front blew, and RV left the road. Wife and son were injured.

Failed tire had rusted steel belts. Tell me how that could be, on a brand new tire? Too many others have also had zipper rips and rusted steel belts. Google it. Michelin never owns the problem.

Terrible Event :(

I saw a pdf somwhere from Michelin an d they address all the problems that can cause all the issues. Of course it appears they have a scientific answer for every issue on their tires, and I can't say that I've seen anywhere that Michelin has stood up and owned their tire issues.

Very bad image for a company that courts the RV industry so much.

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