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Old 04-29-2006, 02:02 PM   #15
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No matter which battery set-up you wind up with,

ask around and see how many Rvers are using

1 1/2 ounces of 100% Pure USP Mineral Oil

in each battery cell.

The RV Lot where we bought our Newmar 3357,

put two, new 12v Interstate RV batteries

in it as a part of the PDI.

I oiled them....
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:30 AM   #16
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1 1/2 oz seems like a lot of oil per cell. I thought the suggested amount was more like 1/2 oz?

For those who may be wondering, the idea is to float some oil on top of the water in each battery cell, to reduce the loss of water which normally occurs during re-charging and also evaporation in hot weather. There are special oils made/sold for this purpose, but mineral oil should work OK too. Be very careful not to get oil on the lead plates - make sure the water is well above the plates and then carefully float the oil on the top of the water. It doesn't take much at all to provide a surface that blocks water loss.

I don't use this technique myself and it probably isn't necessary if you have a good multi-stage charger that doesn't "boil" the batteries by overcharging. But if you lose a lot of battery "water", try the oil trick and see if it helps.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:39 PM   #17
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I used a squeeze-bulb turkey baster to draw
the acid out of each cell, down to the plate
level. I then squirted the acid into a clean,
old glass jar, for topping off each cell, later.

Here's where the ounce and a half of Mineral Oil
comes in...a shot glass = 1 1/2 oz. A small plastic
funnel helps for re-filling.

Long sleeves, rubber gloves, and eye protection are
a must do.

The oil prevents the very large bubbles from forming
in each cell, while charging...it softly just foams.

No more, or very little, nasty battery cable ends.
You can wire-brush and repaint the Coach battery box,
and it'll stay that way..water loss is almost a thing
of the past.

Thanks to Thomas Edison, the inventor of Edison's
Battery Oil..

I bought the funnel and baster at the Dollar Store, and
bought the USP Mineral Oil at Kroger's....
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Eddie, will this operation work on 6 volt batteries also. My batts don't boil over but seem to sweat. "007"
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007---

Yes, this trick will work on the 6v Golf

Cart batteries, too. But you should up

dose because the cells are larger (more

volume)--try 2 ounces per cell....
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steady Eddie:


No matter which battery set-up you wind up with,

ask around and see how many Rvers are using

1 1/2 ounces of 100% Pure USP Mineral Oil

in each battery cell.

The RV Lot where we bought our Newmar 3357,

put two, new 12v Interstate RV batteries

in it as a part of the PDI.

I oiled them....[/QUOTE

It strikes me that this procedure introduces unnecessary battery damage risks. If the charging systems evaporates the electrolyte level down to the plates, they are now contaminated.
Topping-off the batteries is a necessary maintenance requirement, but, there is always the outside chance of the plates being uncovered.
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Old 05-01-2006, 04:14 AM   #21
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This oiling-of-the-Coach-batteries thing

DOES lead to laxity on battery care.

There is simply nothing to check but cell

levels on an extended schedule. Of course,

someone full-timing would need to check

cell levels more often.

Our Coach has an IOTA 3-stage Converter/

Charger (75 Amp) and I am expecting long

battery life.
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Eddie I have tried to find on battery sites info for adding the oil to batteries, do you have "a link" to Edison discribing this procedure. "007"
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007---

I do not have a link at this time.

But---first thing in the morning I will.

I have been embroiled in a posting here

about parking your rig on a moisture barrier

to keep the dampness out of your $pendy

RV tires..I was looking for a direct link to a

tire Mfg.--but could not find one on topic.

Many actually recommend removing the tires and

wheels and leaving the rig up on stands!!

Anyway, ol' Thomas Edison made and sold the

"Edison Battery", many were used to power remote

"way in the outback" railway crossing alarms/lights.

His batteries had a "pour port" in the ceramic cover/lid

that said "oil" right on the port. The Edison Battery Oil

came in a small container, often sold today on eBay.
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:14 AM   #24
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OK, 007--

Here's a link:

http://www.edisonian.com/p001batoilbot.htm

And here's pic of the Edison Battery Lid:

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007--BTW:

You'll not find much about the use of oil in
the batteries on any Battery Mfg. Web-site.

Anything that would/could possibly increase
the lifespan of a battery, runs exactly opposite
of said Mfg. Business Model. Which is: To
sell more batteries.

The risk here is that no Battery Mfg. will warranty
a battery that has had mineral oil placed into it.

I have found, over the years, that most minimum-wage
workers have not a clue about battery oil and my
"normal" battery supply dealer (Walmart) simply
exchanges new-for-old on the spot.

The batteries that I oiled were a part of our "buy"
deal on our Newmar Coach, so I figured, as they were/
are brand new (and a matched pair) I would use them
as a test.
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007--

Do a Google Search on Therm-oil or Thermoil or
Thermoil Batteries.

As they say, they have been around for 50+years now. Their Product contains a dye (a tip off),
whereas USP Mineral Oil is clear in color.
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Ok, thanks again Ed. "007"
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