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Old 01-25-2010, 08:19 PM   #1
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no toaster???

I read an article in a Rv Lifestyle magazine {CDN}that stated that you should never use a toaster.kettle, electric heater or electric fry pan in a RV becaues it heats up the wiring. in the walls.It could cause a fire.I have never heard of this.What are the opinions out there.Some people speak just to hear themselves.
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If your RV has 15 amp rated wiring, 15 amp rated breakers and the toaster will work on a 15 amp circuit then there are no issues of any kind. That, of course, applies to US built RV's that comply with RVIA standards. Maybe you crazy Canadians (grin) have a different set of values, but I would really doubt that this is the case
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Actually our electrical standards CSA are higher than the US ones, I am told.I know that my Cedar Creek 5th wheel had a one way valve in the black water system that was not on US models. I had a leak in the system and the US RV repair man at Vero Beach Fla never saw one before.
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Actually our electrical standards CSA are higher than the US ones, I am told.I know that my Cedar Creek 5th wheel had a one way valve in the black water system that was not on US models. I had a leak in the system and the US RV repair man at Vero Beach Fla never saw one before.


i dont know about your wiring but i run high amperage items OFTEN
convec micro 15 amps
convertor pulls 25-30 amps under big loads
water heater 15 amps
i will complain about using 14 gauge wire on 15 amp outlets
12 would be better
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I read an article in a Rv Lifestyle magazine {CDN}that stated that you should never use a toaster.kettle, electric heater or electric fry pan in a RV becaues it heats up the wiring. in the walls.It could cause a fire.I have never heard of this.What are the opinions out there.Some people speak just to hear themselves.
i have read on this forum? that some 110v wall receptacles have loose push-in wire connectors and can overheat with high wattage use.
i checked all of mine and they are tight.
you could replace your receptacles if in doubt.
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I can attest positively to TQRACN's statement on Canadian higher standards on electrical codes. My company had to to beef up our systems to meet CCA standards. As for my reply to his statement on usage. I have been RV'g for 45 years and have always used what the breaker will tolerate. That is the purpose of the breaker to shut down overloads. Never had a problem.
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stated that you should never use a toaster.kettle, electric heater or electric fry pan in a RV becaues it heats up the wiring.
The word "hogwash" comes immediately to mind!
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All the wireing in my motor home save for a few selected runs is rated at 15 amps. NOTHING on that list of "You should not" uses more than that, in fact it all uses less.. The exceptions.

Outlet for converter has 20 amp wires
Outlet I installed for an electric heater is 20 amp
Two (really 3) outlets I installed for providing "Daisy" power to other rigs in the event of need, 30 amp (Wires are 30 amp size too) inverter input & output lines are 30 amp

All wires have the proper size breakers on them

NOTE: I have a 2000 watt heater, I have measured it using a Kill-a-watt at 1997 or there about. and it does not trip a 15 amp breaker.. The math is just WRONG for that, but it does NOT trip a 15 amp breaker.. IT's on the 20 amp line though.
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It amazes me where some of the so called "Expert" come up with the stuf they publish both on line and in hard print.

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If your RV has 15 amp rated wiring, 15 amp rated breakers and the toaster will work on a 15 amp circuit then there are no issues of any kind. That, of course, applies to US built RV's that comply with RVIA standards. Maybe you crazy Canadians (grin) have a different set of values, but I would really doubt that this is the case

Actually from what I know, Canada has just accepted the RVIA standards and the wiring would now be the same. Don't know all the specifics. But that's the word.
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Unless you have some reason to believe that your 15 amp circuit breakers can't handle a 15 amp load, a toaster will work on any 15 amp circuit! That's the bottom line, and it likely doesn't matter who is certifying the RV. What we have found in many cases it that too many plugs are connected to the same 15 amp circuit so it becomes the users duty to figure out what and what cannot be run at the same time. We run portable electric heater(s) when at a campground to save on our heating costs (which draw more than most toasters) but you have to be aware of what circuit these are on to ensure you don't have a sudden power outage.
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The word "hogwash" comes immediately to mind!
That's the polite term.

We commonly use hair dryers, toasters, televisions, heaters, microwave, coffee pot, fridge, hot water heat, etc, etc., with no problem unless DW uses too many at the same time on the same circuit. Then it just pops the circuit breaker on the inverter and I have to go outside and reset it. I thought the purpose of having these things wired for electricity was to be able to use these types of appliances for our very necessary creature comforts and well being.
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Just dont plug 10 of them into 1 outlet I have seen people try to run a tv, toaster, electric heater, and hairdryer from 1 outlet but still the breaker should go long before the wires if the outlet has lousy push in connections normally the outlet will be noticeably hot If you have something like that going on remove outlet and ck
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The word "hogwash" comes immediately to mind!
Ditto.
And regarding the push in wire connectors, houses use these as well.
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