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07-23-2017, 04:52 AM
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Onan Micro Quiet only runs when start pressed
Has anyone ever had a issue with your Onan generator where it only runs when the starter button is pressed?
Here is the back story - 1997 Fleetwood Tioga, we got used a few months ago. We have used it a few times and the generator worked fine. The last trip you could start the generator no problem - it would run about 20-30 minutes and than die. So i replaced the fuel filter, fuel pump, air filter, and solenoid. The Spark plug looks good. Now i have it all back together and I can get it to start, but it will only stay running when when the starter button is pressed. It was generating ac no problem before i replaced the other items, and the oil is right in the middle between add and full. I know my starter is dieing so i am going to replace that too - but does anyone have any ideas on what is making it stall out after i release the starter button?
Thanks!!
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07-23-2017, 06:38 AM
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a tech once told me that if your generator is stalling that it's usually one of two things - fuel or overheating - but it sounds like you have checked those things and it might be something electrical (since it only runs with your starter button pushed)
Sorry I can't be of more assistance here, good luck and let us know what you find.
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07-23-2017, 06:44 AM
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An older Onan 4K KY type generator works on a voltage in / voltage out type basis.
If you give it 12 volts it puts out 120 volts, but if you only give it 10 volts, it can only produce 100 volts. In order to protect your electronics below a certain output voltage the generator shuts down. It can clip excess voltage, if you're giving it 13.5 volts, but it can't boost low voltage.
I suspect that either your house batteries are low, or you have a poor connection between then and the generator or poor ground.
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07-23-2017, 08:45 AM
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could be the oil pressure switch.When you go to start it has no oil pressure so the board does not look at oil pressure until you let go of the start button then if you have low or no oil pressure it shuts down. check the switch by jumping it. If it keeps running it's a bad switch. Or you really have no oil pressure (unlikely since you said you have enough oil in it).
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07-23-2017, 04:43 PM
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I agree with Lugutus. If your oil pressure switch fails or you are actually low on oil it will do exactly what you describe. Jumper around it to check.
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07-23-2017, 08:49 PM
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The later ones do not have a low oil pressure switch, they were so problematic that Onan stopped including them on the KY 4000's I think about when the name changed from Micro-Lite to Micro-Quiet.
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07-23-2017, 09:22 PM
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Try smokstak forum. We just traveled down to ocean city md. And we ran our microquiet 4000 for about an hour before it died. I was fuming mad since it was 85 degrees out and we now had no ac. Worst nights sleep. But here's what I
Earned about my gen set: if you tap the start stop button 3 times to stop it will give you a code with flashes. Like 33 or 44. If you press it another time it will give you another cod that your on an service dealer will check. Give it a shot. I'll be pulling mine out when I get home and taking it to my Oman buddy to get fixed
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07-24-2017, 06:46 AM
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SO you have a guy that is good with Onan's - and you are new Ocean City... Any chance you are from PA? I am near Harrisburg and not sure where to take this thing if i can't get it running...
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Originally Posted by hivoltage98
Try smokstak forum. We just traveled down to ocean city md. And we ran our microquiet 4000 for about an hour before it died. I was fuming mad since it was 85 degrees out and we now had no ac. Worst nights sleep. But here's what I
Earned about my gen set: if you tap the start stop button 3 times to stop it will give you a code with flashes. Like 33 or 44. If you press it another time it will give you another cod that your on an service dealer will check. Give it a shot. I'll be pulling mine out when I get home and taking it to my Oman buddy to get fixed
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07-24-2017, 06:53 AM
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As you describe it; It very well could be a connection. Make sure the plug behind the Circuit breaker/start switch is still connected. Also wiggle and reconnect the other plugs to the left of the start button. It's very, very common for the generators to have a " Only runs when the start switch is pressed " ....
You can find the service manual here;
Index of /~n0nas/manuals/onan
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07-24-2017, 02:09 PM
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sounds really odd now too - maybe i didn't put something back together correctly? HAs anyone heard one sound like this?
https://youtu.be/DJmP-qMeAj8
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07-25-2017, 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leukass
SO you have a guy that is good with Onan's - and you are new Ocean City... Any chance you are from PA? I am near Harrisburg and not sure where to take this thing if i can't get it running...
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SO I am close to you as I'm in Chester county. I know a few generator guys and have to hit them up when I get back. Most are near Philly and since I'm an electrician I have worked with them on larger gensets. I'll let you know next week.
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07-30-2017, 06:56 AM
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So I talked to someone I know that works for Cummins onan, he doesn't work on the rv units but he recommended that a full pm be done to the genset since the fault code describes a fuel problem. He also said clean the slip rings since that will be another issue to cause this. I have the service manual if your interested, I can email it to you if you need it. I ordered all the parts I believe I need so when I get home tomorrow I'll be pulling the genset from the motor home and digging in.
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07-31-2017, 05:59 AM
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Sounds like you have the solenoid wired wrong
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07-31-2017, 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philswrench
Sounds like you have the solenoid wired wrong
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^^ That's what I'm thinking - something wired on the wrong terminals.
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