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Old 03-25-2014, 06:43 PM   #141
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So you're local. Can I enlist you to help me if I need a Class A/B ride-along?
I, too, need a class a/b ride along. I am in the Norristown area.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:24 PM   #142
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I, too, need a class a/b ride along. I am in the Norristown area.
We do not require you to have a ride along. You can bring the coach to the Driver Center on your own.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:54 PM   #143
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We do not require you to have a ride along. You can bring the coach to the Driver Center on your own.
When I got my permit for PA Class B Non Com license. I was told and I think it says right on the permit that you must have someone of the same class or higher with you when driving. I know that the 1st thing the Examiner did BOTH times I went for the test (1st time I failed as I wasn't told that I would be tested on AIR BRAKES ) was that my friend had to produce his license (which was a CDL ) before we could go any further.
I know you are a Examiner but this rules seem to be open to interpretation by others in your own organization. I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
I also have said before that although it should've been stated plainly before I took my 1st test about the Air Brakes I am glad to have a better understanding of them.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:27 AM   #144
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When I got my permit for PA Class B Non Com license. I was told and I think it says right on the permit that you must have someone of the same class or higher with you when driving. I know that the 1st thing the Examiner did BOTH times I went for the test (1st time I failed as I wasn't told that I would be tested on AIR BRAKES ) was that my friend had to produce his license (which was a CDL ) before we could go any further. I know you are a Examiner but this rules seem to be open to interpretation by others in your own organization. I think it's better to be safe than sorry. I also have said before that although it should've been stated plainly before I took my 1st test about the Air Brakes I am glad to have a better understanding of them.
When I went to get a permit at the Allentown examination center, they also stated that I would NOT need to have a CDL certified driver accompany me. Went to Hazleton and took my test with Jeff Stein who made it a most enjoyable and educational experience.
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Old 03-28-2014, 05:24 PM   #145
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When I got my permit for PA Class B Non Com license. I was told and I think it says right on the permit that you must have someone of the same class or higher with you when driving. I know that the 1st thing the Examiner did BOTH times I went for the test (1st time I failed as I wasn't told that I would be tested on AIR BRAKES ) was that my friend had to produce his license (which was a CDL ) before we could go any further.
I know you are a Examiner but this rules seem to be open to interpretation by others in your own organization. I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
I also have said before that although it should've been stated plainly before I took my 1st test about the Air Brakes I am glad to have a better understanding of them.
You are correct in what they told you. But.......we in the Northeast, try to be as accommodating as we can. Allentown is included in our district, as well as Wilkes-barre. Snydersville, Dunmore, and Easton. Best thing to do is speak with the Supervisor in the center you want to go to, and follow "THEIR" rules. As the saying goes "When in Rome.......

I don't think it is a matter of interpretation, as they are applying the rules as stated on the Learners Permit. These rules can be modified by the District Managers, and Regional Managers. It just happens that our managers chose to be more accommodating to the "RV" community, because we are "in between". We are NOT Commercial, and we are not Automobiles. So Harrisburg, who does the scheduling, probably will not even know where to schedule you.

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You are correct in what they told you. But.......we in the Northeast, try to be as accommodating as we can. Allentown is included in our district, as well as Wilkes-barre. Snydersville, Dunmore, and Easton. Best thing to do is speak with the Supervisor in the center you want to go to, and follow "THEIR" rules. As the saying goes "When in Rome.......

I don't think it is a matter of interpretation, as they are applying the rules as stated on the Learners Permit. These rules can be modified by the District Managers, and Regional Managers. It just happens that our managers chose to be more accommodating to the "RV" community, because we are "in between". We are NOT Commercial, and we are not Automobiles. So Harrisburg, who does the scheduling, probably will not even know where to schedule you.

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I wish I had heard about you before I scheduled in Seneca Center. After I failed the first time due to the Examiner requiring the Air Brake Procedure I put 2000 miles on the coach and went by your area 2 times in my travels and would loved to have been "legal" at the time. Instead I had to get my friend with the required license to go a second time, schedule the test again. But with the extra time and miles I was completely ready for the Air Brake procedure, driving skills test, etc.
I was surprised that I had to parallel park the Beast but found it to be quote easy or I was very lucky.
As I have stated before my DW got her permit and she wants to get her license for a backup. I will make sure she knows the Air Brake as I do believe it is important and driving but just to be safe and more gentle on her we will drive across state to you as I don't want to subject her to the conditions I dealt with. You appear to be one of the more reasonable public servants I have heard of. It is refreshing to heard of someone with "level" thinking. Rules are Rules but sometimes a little common sense needs to be applied.
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For the record:

Jeff Stein is a fine person and a friend to RVers!

I took my class B test with Jeff today. The driving test went just fine. Before and after the test, Jeff shared a wealth of info about air brakes, turning, you name it.

Thanks so very much Jeff!

I think every RVer can learn valuable info just by reading the CDL training guide. It will make us all safer on the road.

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Way to go Dave!

Thanks Wayne.
It is good to be legal and be more informed.
Knowledge is power. And I like gathering more of it.

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I just checked the Ohio DMV site and All RV's are exempt from CDL, Class "A" and "B" licensing requirements regardless of weight.
Another good reason to make Ohio your residence state!
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The majority of states do not require a CDL

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Knowledge is definitely power. I had a CDL for many years. Converted it to a Class A. I strongly recommend that anyone driving a large vehicle, like we do, invest the time to read through the CDL manual for the knowledge that is there. I just may make a better and safer driver, even if it is not necessary for the coach one drives, or state one drives in. Some good information in the manual.

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I've read the Ohio CDL, so I'm prepared. I just didn't want the hassle of packing up and going somewhere to take the test. Also, I did not want to have a instructor see me lugging around oxygen, and wondering if I was fit enough to drive my rig.
If I thought I wasn't I just wouldn't do it. But I feel very confident in my driving ability.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:24 PM   #153
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For the record:

Jeff Stein is a fine person and a friend to RVers!

I took my class B test with Jeff today. The driving test went just fine. Before and after the test, Jeff shared a wealth of info about air brakes, turning, you name it.

Thanks so very much Jeff!

I think every RVer can learn valuable info just by reading the CDL training guide. It will make us all safer on the road.

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I am going to Hazelton and test with Jeff (Hopefully) soon. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Excuse me, I have not read the 11 pages but have seen numerous questions and answers about required special license to operate your various motorhomes. My question is.... Each state has it's own requirements but how does this effect travelers???? Until the states all come up with the SAME rules and regulations how do people travel from state to state?? If I'm compliant in my home state but my home state has different length, weight, and license requirements than all the sourrounding states am I held captive in my home state.
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