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Old 06-06-2013, 05:41 PM   #43
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I have written to PFJ. If I do not get any satisfaction, I will give them a call. I also thought the discount should have been off the cash price. Unfortunately I no longer have the receipts.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:35 PM   #44
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A couple of times in Texas I've had the card fail to scan at the pump, but when I go inside they scan it for me and then I fill up no problem, and I get the discount. I'm wondering if all Pilot/Flying J's are corporate owned or if there are some franchises?
Yes there are franchise stations. I've seen some that were bare-bones stations, nothing resembling a company-owned PFJ.
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A couple of times in Texas I've had the card fail to scan at the pump, but when I go inside they scan it for me and then I fill up no problem, and I get the discount. I'm wondering if all Pilot/Flying J's are corporate owned or if there are some franchises?
You can download the PFJ RV Guide at the following link that will give you all the information for each location:
http://www.pilotflyingj.com/assets/t.../RVTG_2013.pdf
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:06 PM   #46
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Does anyone ever read the prior posts before posting. Several have come on here and bragged about getting .06 - .08 cents with a GS Lifetime membership card. Even if you add that to a .03 cent discount at Flying J, you're still only getting HALF the discount you get with a PenFed card.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:42 AM   #47
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I switched to the PenFed Rewards card when it first came out and the only threshold I'm aware of is the Visa Rewards cards start at $50.00 (5,000 points), which is the way I redeem my points. We only use our coach about 5-6 months a year, so the 3 points at supermarkets (including WalMart) and 1 point for everything else accumulate a lot of points on their own.
Bob, the reason I didn't switch to the "points" card is that what you are redeeming your reward for is a $50.00 (or $100, $250, etc.) Prepaid Visa card. And, therefore, what you purchase with that card, let's say, $50 is not eligible for any rewards in itself. Did I explain that right? It's $50 that you'll use where you won't be getting any further rebate.

If you were to use a rewards card for that same purchase, you'd be accumulating more points but using that gift card, you're not.

For me, I'd rather get the reward either in cash or a deduction right off my statement which is the same as cash to me. I'm leaving a bit of money on the table if I accept a Visa gift card as my reward. I hope I'm explaining that in easy to understand terms. It's not that big of a deal but still is not quite as good as getting the reward/rebate in cash.

Out of curiosity, are you grandfathered in to that "5-points for gas, 3-points for groceries, 1-point for everything else" program? New card applicants are only going to get that rate until the end of October and then it is downgraded to "3-points for gas, 2-points for groceries and 1-point for everything else" click here

But who knows, they may be reducing the Cash Rewards card down to 3% at some point too. Many think we've had it too good for too long so it may be overdue for them to reduce the rewards on the Cash Rewards card too.

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Does anyone ever read the prior posts before posting. Several have come on here and bragged about getting .06 - .08 cents with a GS Lifetime membership card. Even if you add that to a .03 cent discount at Flying J, you're still only getting HALF the discount you get with a PenFed card.
I know it, Don! It's like posting to a brick wall. People cheering at getting 8-cents off a gallon with the Good Sam card ...jeez!

I'm getting 3-cents off a gallon from my PFJ "RV Real Value Card" card PLUS 20-cents off a gallon from using my Penfed card if diesel is $4.03/gallon so therefore, I'm getting 23-cents off a gallon. That seems much better than 8-cents a gallon anyday. Granted, I can't do this at the truck pumps, however, but I don't use the truck pumps at PFJ any longer anyway. I can usually do it at the RV islands though.

And so far, I've been getting the cash price with the RV Real Value Card but even if I didn't, I think I'd still be ahead of 8-cents a gallon off diesel when I use the Penfed card.

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Old 06-07-2013, 08:26 AM   #48
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Become a Good Sam Lifetime member and apply for the RV PLUS CHARGE CARD and you will receive a .06 discount on gas and .08 on diesel. You will see the discount on the pump before pumping. This seems to be the best card to avoid problems with FJ and Pilot.
There is a huge downside to that card_ 25% interest if not paid in full each month.
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Yeah...found that out before I used it. I kept the card as a "just in case" card but I never use it. Similar deal to your wife purchasing clothes at 15% off at the dept. store, then paying for it with a Visa that charges 19% interest. When I fuel (diesel) I always check my "Gas Buddy" app on my phone or on my comp. TONS of places have much better cash prices than J/Pilot/Loves. I still use J/Pilot occasionally but I have their "Frequent Fueler" card which will give your the cash price for your debit card, or it give you points if you pay cash. I usually just pay cash. You can use the "Frequent" card for points when you make purchases inside. FYI, if there is a Wendy's there, you can get a discount on your burger with your "Frequent' card aslo.
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Bob, the reason I didn't switch to the "points" card is that what you are redeeming your reward for is a $50.00 (or $100, $250, etc.) Prepaid Visa card. And, therefore, what you purchase with that card, let's say, $50 is not eligible for any rewards in itself. Did I explain that right? It's $50 that you'll use where you won't be getting any further rebate.

If you were to use a rewards card for that same purchase, you'd be accumulating more points but using that gift card, you're not.

For me, I'd rather get the reward either in cash or a deduction right off my statement which is the same as cash to me. I'm leaving a bit of money on the table if I accept a Visa gift card as my reward. I hope I'm explaining that in easy to understand terms. It's not that big of a deal but still is not quite as good as getting the reward/rebate in cash.
Harry, I completely understand what you're saying. I have been having the prepaid Visa cards issued either in my step-daughter's name. She lives in California and is getting by, but just barely, so a little extra here and there helps. Or I have them issued in my grandson's names (three of them). They get a kick out of going shopping and paying with their own "credit card" as they call it, particularly since it has their name on it. However even if I was going to use them myself then I would only be giving up the 1 point reward. The 3 points I earn on supermarket purchases more than makes up for that when compared to the .25% rebate for everything other than fuel on the Cash Rewards card. I hope that makes sense.


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Out of curiosity, are you grandfathered in to that "5-points for gas, 3-points for groceries, 1-point for everything else" program? New card applicants are only going to get that rate until the end of October and then it is downgraded to "3-points for gas, 2-points for groceries and 1-point for everything else" click here
I wasn't aware of this, but I just called PenFed and no I am not grandfathered in, so my current rewards card will also change. What I will do then is open a Cash Rewards card account again, and just use it for fueling. I won't have to go through another credit check as I have a fairly high credit limit on the Rewards Card, so I can simply split that limit between the two cards.

It's probably people like me that have caused this revision. I think PenFed was hoping people would redeem their points for inflated priced merchandise, rather than prepaid Visa cards. Also the 3% supermarket points can add up quick since they are earned at Wal Mart Super Centers, even when purchasing other than grocery items.

I also have the PFJ RV Plus card that I use if we're in a hurry and the RV pump lines are backed up. I understand what others are saying about finding other sources for fueling with lower prices than PFJ, but for a number of personal reasons that I won't go into here, I prefer to use PFJ.

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But who knows, they may be reducing the Cash Rewards card down to 3% at some point too. Many think we've had it too good for too long so it may be overdue for them to reduce the rewards on the Cash Rewards card too.

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I agree and have been surprised they have kept it in place for as long as they have. Of course with my luck, shortly after I get my Cash Rewards card in November, they will then make the change. Let's hope not.

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Understand and agree on all counts, Bob.

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Have fueled up several times in last month and each location always gave me disc. From cash price 6cts on diesel 4 cents on car.
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I have used Flying J / Pilot for quite a few years. Most all transactions are without ANY problems, and I always get the cash price with the appropriate discount.
However, a few times there was a glitch and the pump did not give me the correct price. I simply parked the MH and went inside to the cashier with my receipt and explained the situtation to the attendant. EVERY time, they immediately refunded me the difference, IN CASH. No problem, it just took a very small amount of time.
I like Flying J / Pilot and use them when it's convenient for me to do so.
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The Pilot/Flying J RV discount program is a good example of how not to run a discount program. There are too many variables - different cards, different islands, etc. The customer shouldn't have to worry about whether they can use a credit card at one island but not the next, they shouldn't have to worry about a station branded as a Flying J but not a part of the program, etc. I shouldn't have to check a book or web site to find out if it is part of the program. It is not worth the small discount. I have a 39' motorhome with a toad and always can find a place to get it into a gas station and back out again. Oftentimes the price is the same or nearly so, so I don't bother with Flying J any more. That's too bad for Flying J if they want to sell more fuel. They are their own worse enemy. There is another thread on this site that has gone on for hundreds of pages and its' sole purpose was to explain how to use their program with all the variables. That is too complicated and it shouldn't be any harder to fill up a motorhome than to fill up a car. And to top it all off, the company's sales manager held a mandatory national sales meeting and told their salesmen how to cheat their customers. They also told their salesmen that they would loose their customer (and that commission) if they did not follow along. That is criminal and I will not contribute to a company that behaves in that manner. I hope the Feds nail them with a huge fine and some jail sentences.
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The Pilot/Flying J RV discount program is a good example of how not to run a discount program. There are too many variables - different cards, different islands, etc. The customer shouldn't have to worry about whether they can use a credit card at one island but not the next, they shouldn't have to worry about a station branded as a Flying J but not a part of the program, etc. I shouldn't have to check a book or web site to find out if it is part of the program. It is not worth the small discount. I have a 39' motorhome with a toad and always can find a place to get it into a gas station and back out again. Oftentimes the price is the same or nearly so, so I don't bother with Flying J any more. That's too bad for Flying J if they want to sell more fuel. They are their own worse enemy. There is another thread on this site that has gone on for hundreds of pages and its' sole purpose was to explain how to use their program with all the variables. That is too complicated and it shouldn't be any harder to fill up a motorhome than to fill up a car. And to top it all off, the company's sales manager held a mandatory national sales meeting and told their salesmen how to cheat their customers. They also told their salesmen that they would loose their customer (and that commission) if they did not follow along. That is criminal and I will not contribute to a company that behaves in that manner. I hope the Feds nail them with a huge fine and some jail sentences.
Yea, the Feds hate crooks. They don't like the competition.
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I don't use any cards .On my last trip to socal I used cash all the way.I prefer it that way.Anyway in Cal I seen $5 a gallon of reg gas and in Az it was $3.299.Hell of a difference.Damm the oil companys.
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