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Old 07-06-2014, 11:05 AM   #1
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Unhappy Problem with Atwood Level-Legs ?

Okay so the last time out the Atwood Level-Legs electric leveling system failed. The first problem was, it would not store the legs automatically and I had to raise the legs individually from the dash control panel. At the next stop the legs all went down auto but would not park so I raise manual again, but the driver's front leg would not move, so I had to raise it with a drill ! It takes 500 revolutions to move it an inch and I was down most all the way.

After calling the support line, we were able to turn off all the alarms and warnings and get on the road. Used the old leveler from the Class C, I knew there was a reason to keep them in the Class A !!

Anyway now that we are home, I want to address the issue. When I turn on the ignition for the motorhome, the Level-Legs system begins an alarm and the driver front red and yellow lights blink. When I push the power (on) button the alarm stops but the lights still blink and it will not do manual or automatic up or down. When the motorhome is placed into gear, all the alarms go off and the Level-Legs system trys to park the legs. All four try to move but because they are already up they just chatter again the stops.

I'm not electrical engineer !!!! But my pee brain says it must be the electronic control box mounted in the outside storage compartment. Since all four legs have power, the box must not be giving the correct signals to the system.

Anyway sorry for the Looooooong discussion but I wanted everyone to know what the problems are and what I've already figured out.

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Old 07-06-2014, 04:25 PM   #2
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Rambled on so much I forgot to ask the question !!!!

How do I go about confirming my thoughts on the control box ? Seems like a test of each motor with 12v would make sense, but again I'm no engineer. There are two wires running to each motor, so my guess is they are reversing the polarity to make the motor run up or down ???

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I would first start off by confirming that the magnet a couple inches above the foot on each jack is still in place and reset the "zero level" point (should be in the manual). The motor polarity does determine direction of leveler legs.
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Exclamation Found this....

I did some more trouble shooting and determined that the motor for the driver front jack does not work when 12v is supplied direct. I can run the other legs no problem. Anyone know where I can purchase the motor ? Will I have to buy the whole assembly ?

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Try a starter rebuilder or a motor gear case can be ordered.
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Okay, I found a local business that will rebuild the motor if possible. If I take it in (motor) $16 to look, if I drive the MH in and have them R/R $100 shop labor. So the question is how to remove the motor from the jack ? I don't see anything holding the motor to the jack from the bottom side and to see the top side I'll need to remove the jack assembly (4 big bolts) from the frame of the coach ? Is that correct or do I have everything mixed up as usual ?

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You'll have to remove the leg from the coach. Remember to disconnect the connector(s) when you remove the leg. If your gears are not bad, I'd try to find a different way to disconnect the motor other than removing the three bolts on top of the gear housing, they'll expose the gearing, etc which is all greased up and must be kept clean.

Have you tried spinning the motor manually? I had this issue with mine repeatedly, but could free them up by rocking the motor back and forth with the hex bolt on the end of the shaft. Turns out it was always the clutches going bad, but that's another story. I have some pictures of these assemblies taken apart if you need them.
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Pictures are always nice...

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Turns out it was always the clutches going bad, but that's another story.
So I got the motor repaired and I can now move it up and down by sending 12v direct to the leg... I talked to Atwood (not a lot of help!) and they said needs new controller board, but not available for my system, too old !

So since all the legs are working, just not from the controller, it seems that all I need is a new dash panel and the controller board ? The wiring is all good, I've checked it out and the sensors for the brake, trans, engine, ect. are all good and working correctly. Do how do I proceed ? If it's the clutches what's the fix for that ? Where are they ?

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Mention that my used coach came with the control board for my Atwood system disconnected and a Gama Electronics remote controller to raise and lower the legs. At first I was perplexed as to why any one would do this modification but after reading many of the complaints I now know. The remote works as designed and I rather like the set up. I have no idea what the system cost but works well for me. Glad to have it.
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Can you get me some more info on this remote unit. Sounds like a possible solution!
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So I got the motor repaired and I can now move it up and down by sending 12v direct to the leg... I talked to Atwood (not a lot of help!) and they said needs new controller board, but not available for my system, too old !

So since all the legs are working, just not from the controller, it seems that all I need is a new dash panel and the controller board ? The wiring is all good, I've checked it out and the sensors for the brake, trans, engine, ect. are all good and working correctly. Do how do I proceed ? If it's the clutches what's the fix for that ? Where are they ?

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Bill, glad to hear you have made some progress. I remember reading of a member who built a controller that would allow him to manually level the coach and doing away with the key pad control board. Try doing a search for this modification or fabrication of Atwood controller switches in this forum.
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Gamainc.com is a great place to start. The staff was very helpful when I ordered a second remote as a back up to the one that came with the motorhome. Good luck.
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