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Old 05-20-2014, 04:49 PM   #15
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Michigan bases the annual plate renewal fee on manufacturer's MSRP. My registration has the "category" set to 155 ($155,000.00).

I just got off the phone with the DMV and was told my renewal is $786!!!!!

I asked: "...every year?..."

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I live here in MI. I just didn't realize that that's the way they figure tag costs. When they asked me what I paid when I first registered it I thought it was to assess the amount of sales tax I had to pay, not part of an equation as to what my yearly tag would cost. It seems so unfair!
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By the way, You Mich folks do know that since the registration fee is based on the value of the vehicle that it is considered a PROPERTY TAX by the Federal government,, So when you figure your taxes, if you itemize, be sure to include the renewal fees for your rides.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:21 PM   #17
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Michigan bases the annual plate renewal fee on manufacturer's MSRP. My registration has the "category" set to 155 ($155,000.00).

I just got off the phone with the DMV and was told my renewal is $786!!!!!

I asked: "...every year?..."

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Many states have a property tax due at registration renewal based on the value of the vehicle, and MSRP is often used as a reference, but in all states I know of this amount is depreciated yearly since the value of the property you are paying tax on depreciates every year. Are you saying that Michigan taxes you on the initial MSRP forever, without ever depreciating the tax value? That doesn't make any sense because when your $155,000 vehicle is, say, 20 years old with a zillion miles on it then it's actual value might be $40,000. Are you saying that Michigan will still tax it as it if were worth $155,000... forever..?
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Many states have a property tax due at registration renewal based on the value of the vehicle, and MSRP is often used as a reference, but in all states I know of this amount is depreciated yearly since the value of the property you are paying tax on depreciates every year. Are you saying that Michigan taxes you on the initial MSRP forever, without ever depreciating the tax value? That doesn't make any sense because when your $155,000 vehicle is, say, 20 years old with a zillion miles on it then it's actual value might be $40,000. Are you saying that Michigan will still tax it as it if were worth $155,000... forever..?
The plate renewal fee is based on a category e.g. MSRP and is denoted on my registration card. That never changes and neither does the fee. It's out and out perpetual robbery, IMO.
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The plate renewal fee is based on a category e.g. MSRP and is denoted on my registration card. That never changes and neither does the fee. It's out and out perpetual robbery, IMO.
Yikes. That sucks.
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There are a lot of people that register MH's and speciality vehicles in Montana. MT has very favorable fees and regulations for vehicles. You's need a good MT attorney that will set up an LLC and a mailing address and you'll need to open a bank account there. All of this can be handled by the attorney. This may sound like a lot of work but its not. My son in law just registered a road/track car that he built and couldn't register in CT where he lives. If you are interested PM me and I'll get you the contact info for the attorney he used.

States are now cracking down on this.
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$81.00 per year here in Pa. I bought it in Michigan, and the guy I bought it from was telling me about the regesterion fee's in his state.....WOW, AUTO'S ARE BAD ALSO UP THERE, EVERYTHING IS........
I know for sure I would be doing something different!
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Yikes. That sucks.
Yes it does but for us it's the way it is.
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In Ontario (Canada), plates renew for $75. However the taxes (HST- Harmonized Sales Tax) is 13%, one time. On a $200K coach, yes that comes to $26,000...

A Montana plate would be nice!!!!!
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This is from the Michigan DMV website...

License plate fees for 1984 and newer model year passenger vehicles and light trucks are calculated using a percentage of the manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) at the time the vehicle is first titled. This is also known as the base price or window sticker price before any taxes, options, and destination charges.

The plate fee decreases by 10% each year for the first three annual plate renewals, after which the fee no longer changes as the vehicle continues to age.

Michigan also has the second highest ins. rates out of all states.

Add in there the DW's car and three Jeeps that I like to keep "street-able" and it stinks big time. But it's our choice to stay here at least for now.
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Can anyone cite any examples of states cracking down on the Montana LLC? Or provide a link to any cracking down? I have never seen an example...Thank you!


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Iowa getting tough on recreational vehicle fees - TheGazette

http://archives.lib.state.ma.us/bits...n649846936.pdf

State Investigating Tax Evasion on Motor Homes
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I'd like to bring this topic back on track. I'm not avoiding taxes....already paid the sales tax in MI on my coach...

I am looking to find a legal way to have my motorhome reside and plated in OH.
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I'd like to bring this topic back on track. I'm not avoiding taxes....already paid the sales tax in MI on my coach...

I am looking to find a legal way to have my motorhome reside and plated in OH.

1) you move to Ohio and become an Ohio resident
2) you buy a part time property in Ohio and tell the Ohio DMV you're leaving this vehicle stored at your Ohio property, which requires you to reg & insure it in Ohio
3) you work out an arrangement with your brother to put the vehicle in his name, or form an Ohio based family trust to own & register/insure the vehicle in Ohio
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