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05-29-2017, 04:40 PM
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Running out of diesel
Has anyone one ever ran out of gas/ diesel in a class a or c before. What did you do to get it started or what did you do. I just thought that up. We ran out of diesel in our Chevy 2500 and it was a B**** to get started. Thanks for any answers 😊
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05-29-2017, 04:41 PM
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If you run out of diesel, you generally have to prime the system
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05-29-2017, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvbunz
If you run out of diesel, you generally have to prime the system
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Do you know how hard it is to prime one
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05-29-2017, 04:53 PM
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I'm told it is a pain. Have you run out?
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05-29-2017, 04:56 PM
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No. I just thought of that
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05-29-2017, 04:57 PM
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I don't want to run out and have learned my lesson from the pickup. The computer said we had 40 miles left and we conked out a mile from the gas station
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05-29-2017, 04:59 PM
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If you run out of gas/diesel you deserve how ever hard it is to get it back running
On the flip side, I would think that running out of diesel is far worst than running out of gas, usually gas, you just have to flip the ignition on a few times and your good to go.
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05-29-2017, 05:00 PM
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I NEVER want to worry about that so....gauge hits 1/2 tank....I'm looking for somewhere to fill up.
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05-29-2017, 05:07 PM
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You will have to prime the low pressure side, get air free fuel to the high pressure pump first. There is a hand pump on models with mechanical pimps to get fuel that far, this is to keep from using the starter to do this. You can fry a starter doing this.
If you have an electric primary pump you can cycle the key several times to do this.
THEN, you have to bleed the air out of the injector lines by cracking them open the turning over the engine with the starter until fuel comes out. Usually 1 or 2 lines cracked and bled will usually do this, but not always, sometimes it takes all of them. Not easy on a truck, really not easy on a motorhome.
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05-29-2017, 05:09 PM
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I have run several diesels out of fuel and the first thing to remember is don't sit there and crank the motor trying to get it started before you put fuel in it. Recognize it is out. If it is cranked with out fuel it will just pump air into the system and have to be bled.
good luck
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05-29-2017, 05:44 PM
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Depends on what engine you have on how hard it will be. I had a CAT that a pump to reprime the system, my current Cummins primes itself, you put the ignition in the "ON" position and it will prime in a few minutes.
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05-29-2017, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim27358
Depends on what engine you have on how hard it will be. I had a CAT that a pump to reprime the system, my current Cummins primes itself, you put the ignition in the "ON" position and it will prime in a few minutes.
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This is a fairly accurate answer. It DOES depend on make of the engine, how its fuel system was designed etc. There are some motor homes that have primary fuel pumps INSIDE THE TANK. There are some that are outside the tank. There are some that have NO PRIMARY PUMP AT ALL. Ours is the last one. Long story short, I was not out of fuel but, when I went to change the ONE AND ONLY fuel filter that we have, the back of the coach was higher than the front so, that meant all the fuel in the line, ran right back into the tank.
That meant an empty fuel line. I also made the mistake to leave the fuel filter DRY and not pre-fill it. I did that because the CAT book I have, TOLD ME TO. Well, after a few phone calls to Freightliner, Catarpillar, and one or two other experts, I found out the only way to get our big beast started, (an '04 C-7 330HP CAT with single fuel filter) was to pressurize the fuel tank. Then, when you had fuel flowing out of the inlet, you still have pressurize the line from the filter to the "lift pump" on the engine.
And, DO FILL THE FILTER prior to install. Once all that was done, a bit more cranking and, she started to fire. Once it fired up, it purred like a kitten, even for a CAT.
So, again, the smartest thing a new D/P owner can do is, find out how THEIR fuel system works, in THEIR coach. That way, you know WAY IN ADVANCE, how it works and, what to do if and when you run it out of fuel.
Scott
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05-29-2017, 09:21 PM
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Getting a diesel restarted after you run out of fuel is a giant pain. I never let my tank run down below 1/3. Couple of reasons. First the generator will cut out when you get low on fuel. They say it stops at 1/4 tank but I know of many who have shut down at 1/3 tank. Second, there is something psychological about filling the tank once at a cost of $440. Versus filling twice at $200 each. Running out of fuel can mean being stopped for a long time getting the fuel and then getting the rig started. There's no reason to run low.
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05-29-2017, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Fingers
You will have to prime the low pressure side, get air free fuel to the high pressure pump first. There is a hand pump on models with mechanical pimps to get fuel that far, this is to keep from using the starter to do this. You can fry a starter doing this.
If you have an electric primary pump you can cycle the key several times to do this.
THEN, you have to bleed the air out of the injector lines by cracking them open the turning over the engine with the starter until fuel comes out. Usually 1 or 2 lines cracked and bled will usually do this, but not always, sometimes it takes all of them. Not easy on a truck, really not easy on a motorhome.
Happy Motoring
Don & Susan
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