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08-19-2014, 11:25 AM
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Sales Tax & License Plate Question -Private Seller in Florida
Hello all,
After a lengthy and exhaustive search - we believe we are in the last bits of a negotiation to purchase a used motorhome from a private seller in Florida. The coach is registered in Florida, titled in Florida, with a lien holder (Bank) in West Virginia.
So at the end of the deal, I anticipate receiving a transferable Florida title from the lienholder/seller.
Questions:
- Does Florida require the collection of sales tax on a private sale?
- If so, what if it is delivered out of state?
- What are my options for a temporary license plate? In any.
- If we register it to another state or an LLC, what do we use for plates in the interim?
I'm sure we are not the first to make such a transaction - just not certain how to navigate it all.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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08-19-2014, 02:37 PM
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I believe Florida does not require private sellers to collect sales tax. You will have to pay sales tax in what ever state you register the RV. To make things simple you should probably register in the state what're you claim residency (domicile).
As for temp plates I have no idea. You might call the Florida BMV or you hme state BMV to see if they will issue one.
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08-19-2014, 06:58 PM
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Sales Tax & License Plate Question -Private Seller in Florida
The sale and transfer should be without tax due to Florida. When you apply for plates/tags, the state you apply in will want their respectable taxes. I bought my son a new car from a dealer in Florida, paid Washington sales tax and registration. He just got transferred to Charleston SC, has to pay a personal property tax every year. This year, it was $985. Glad I live in Florida.
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08-20-2014, 04:05 AM
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If the vehicle has been registered in another state for over 6 months since it was purchased, then Florida will not charge sales tax. If however it was registered for less than 6 months in another state (for example just getting delivery in another state) then Florida will charge the difference between what you paid and the 6% Florida would charge. If you paid 6% or more in the other state them Florida will not charge any additional sales tax.
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08-20-2014, 05:21 AM
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Check with your DMV. In Virginia you can go on DMV website and purchase temp.transit tag for a few bucks. All you need is your drivers license number, VIN and transit date. I have bought a car out of state and used this to drive home.
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08-20-2014, 05:27 AM
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I sold my Fl titled MH to an Ohio resident. He paid Fl. sales tax. ( same as he would have paid in Ohio ) . Fl gave him the title but would not issue temp tags without proof of an insurance card issued by a company licensed to do business in Fl.
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08-20-2014, 05:51 AM
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If you go to a Florida "Tax Office" and ask them for a temporary plate, my bet is they'll want to collect the sales tax. They'll then forward the paperwork to the DMV in your home state, who will issue you a plate and mail it to you.
This all sounds great, but the problem is if there is a snag anywhere, that temporary plate may not last long enough to get it all sorted out.
I would make sure of your insurance coverage, and drive it home on the bill of sale. If anyone stops you, a bill of sale dated with that day's date (or maybe yesterday's?), should grant you safe passage.
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08-20-2014, 06:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahicks
If you go to a Florida "Tax Office" and ask them for a temporary plate, my bet is they'll want to collect the sales tax.
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That wasn't my experience at all.
I produced my drivers license to show where it would be registered (our version of 'titled') and they said 'no problem'. I paid them a few dollars to transfer the title into my name (tax free) and issue me a 30 day temporary Florida tag. I was in & out in 5 minutes.
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08-20-2014, 06:09 AM
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From the FL DMV website:
What is the purpose for issuance of temporary license plates?
Florida law provides for a variety of legal uses of temporary license plates. The most common is by motor vehicle dealers to allow customers who don't have a license plate to transfer to be able to drive their newly purchased vehicle off the lot. The license plates are valid for 30 days, which gives dealers ample time to apply for titles and registrations for their customers.
If you are not a dealer, but you have acquired another vehicle and transferred your license plate from your old vehicle to the new vehicle, a temporary license plate may be obtained from the tax collector's office so you may demonstrate your old vehicle while it is for sale.
Non-residents also are eligible to secure a temporary license plate for "in-transit" purposes if they purchase a vehicle in Florida and want to drive it back home. However, proof of insurance (from Florida or home state) and sales tax in the amount required by the home state must be paid. If you feel you may be eligible for a temporary license plate, inquire through your local tax collector's office or the regional DMV office that serves your area.
and regarding taxes:
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/current/gt800033.pdf
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08-20-2014, 09:51 AM
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After purchasing a used unit in Florida last year with intention of registering it in Calif, here's my experience. The license plates stay with the owner, not with the vehicle. If you want temporary registration from Florida you need to pay them the sales tax. When you register it in your home state it is applied to the tax there. If you choose not to involve Florida with keeping your money and hoping the two states work it out when you do register it, just drive it home without plates as I did. I felt if I got stopped for no plates, chances are the paperwork documenting the sale would suffice, as long as you didn't stretch it out too long. I didn't have a problem. If I did get a citation for no plates, no big deal. I obtained insurance before I left and my insurance company never asked if it was registered, why would they care?
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08-20-2014, 10:12 AM
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Where do you live?
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08-21-2014, 05:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murf2u
That wasn't my experience at all.
I produced my drivers license to show where it would be registered (our version of 'titled') and they said 'no problem'. I paid them a few dollars to transfer the title into my name (tax free) and issue me a 30 day temporary Florida tag. I was in & out in 5 minutes.
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Where you leaving the country? That might explain why they didn't attempt to collect sales tax...
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08-21-2014, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch Hoagland
Where do you live?
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Currently in Pennsylvania - we anticipate changing our state of domicile within a year.
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08-21-2014, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceisla
From the FL DMV website:
What is the purpose for issuance of temporary license plates?
Florida law provides for a variety of legal uses of temporary license plates. The most common is by motor vehicle dealers to allow customers who don't have a license plate to transfer to be able to drive their newly purchased vehicle off the lot. The license plates are valid for 30 days, which gives dealers ample time to apply for titles and registrations for their customers.
If you are not a dealer, but you have acquired another vehicle and transferred your license plate from your old vehicle to the new vehicle, a temporary license plate may be obtained from the tax collector's office so you may demonstrate your old vehicle while it is for sale.
Non-residents also are eligible to secure a temporary license plate for "in-transit" purposes if they purchase a vehicle in Florida and want to drive it back home. However, proof of insurance (from Florida or home state) and sales tax in the amount required by the home state must be paid. If you feel you may be eligible for a temporary license plate, inquire through your local tax collector's office or the regional DMV office that serves your area.
and regarding taxes:
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/current/gt800033.pdf
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^^ What he said.
My nephew did this last year with a Pop-Up. Bought in FL, towed to Ohio for reg/title. He paid the estimated tax for OH at the FL DMV. Paid for a temp tag - $14, and drove it back. On the OH side he paid another $6 in tax due to county he lived in, and paid their title fees.
Be sure to use the Florida Bill of Sale form HSMV 82050.
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