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Old 10-29-2008, 02:22 PM   #1
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We have a 95 gulfstream that only has lap belts,
would like to install lap& shoulder belts, but dont know just where I could mount the shoulder retractor, has anyone else run into this and how did you solve the problem.
thanks in advance Bill
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We have a 95 gulfstream that only has lap belts,
would like to install lap& shoulder belts, but dont know just where I could mount the shoulder retractor, has anyone else run into this and how did you solve the problem.
thanks in advance Bill
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:40 PM   #3
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nostradumass:
We have a 95 gulfstream that only has lap belts,
would like to install lap& shoulder belts, but dont know just where I could mount the shoulder retractor, has anyone else run into this and how did you solve the problem.
thanks in advance Bill </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bill,

Most older motorhomes do not have the required structure for mounting a shoulder belt unless you upgrade to seats with them built in.

Our first motorhome was a 1995 Winnebago Vectra which we chose because of the steel caged drivers compartment that gave us shoulder belts mounted to steel frames and a drivers door.

What did GulfStreams support people reccomend when you called them?

If you have not called them yet here is the link to their customer service page:

http://www.gulfstreamcoach.com/rv-customer-service.htm
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:53 PM   #4
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM... great thought- i have an '04 georgetown & it's only got a lap belt---makes me wonder how also.
post often and again welcome...
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:15 AM   #5
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Here is a link to a captains chair with a built in shoulder belt:

http://www.rvandvansurplus.com/eshop...uctCode=099005
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The framing around the window could be used. Most likely it is going to be aluminum but a bolt could be put through edge of the window frame and aluminum stud. Many times you can see the framing on an early dew point morning through the fiberglass skin.
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Old 10-30-2008, 03:28 AM   #7
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Thanks All, I am going to start with gulfstream support,and work my way up to the more expensive solutions like the new chairs.
I do have a drivers door so there probably is a frame where the door closes, thanks again and I will let you know how it all works out
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The chairs with the built in shoulder belt are probably more expensive than you think. They require additional floor reinforcement to take the added stress of holding the occupant in a crash.

Do your current lap only belts connect to the chair or the floor? Probably the floor.

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Lap belts connect to chair, to a tube that runs at the rear and bottom of the chair
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV Wizard:
The framing around the window could be used. Most likely it is going to be aluminum but a bolt could be put through edge of the window frame and aluminum stud. Many times you can see the framing on an early dew point morning through the fiberglass skin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes however most shoulder harnesses attachments would require at least one 1/2 inch bolt or two 3/8 inch bolts with the nuts mounted in a steel frame or the bolts going all the way through with a 2 to 3 inch hard steel washer on the outside between the nut and the sidewall. You would not just use anything self tapping otherwise the shoulder belt would just be a decoration that could come flying off the wall and hit you on the back of the head in an accident.

I looked into this some time ago before I purchased my first coach and determined beforehand that it would be wisest to only consider rigs that were factory equipped with shoulder belts.

Lets face it, it takes a lot to stop a 200+/- lb weight in even a 20 or 30 mph crash. The forces involved can be tremendous.
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