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Old 09-25-2012, 07:50 PM   #1
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Seat belts

I have a Monaco Executive RV with a couch that has no seat belts - there have never been seatbelts before.
We have been told conflicting stories - that we can have passengers and they don't have to worry about seat belts because there were never any before.....and we were told that we couldn't have passengers because there were not enough seat belts for everyone.....
Please help!

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Old 09-25-2012, 08:13 PM   #2
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Seat belt laws vary state to state, so whether legally you need them will vary depending on where you are driving. You can start with this listing Seatbelt Laws
The chart is a bit dated so you will need to verify the information from up to date sources.

I will let others argue whether your side facing passengers are better off with seat belts.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:13 PM   #3
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

I think there is no one "right" answer to your question but I'm sure you'll get lots of opinions.

From a safety perspective, I'm sure it would be best to have every person aboard strapped in. Many will also claim it is irresponsible to not have every pet on board strapped in as well.

From a legal perspective, I imagine there are some states with obscure laws addressing it but I've never heard of a single case where it was an issue for anyone not riding in the driver's or passenger's seats... which should always be belted in.

We've only carried passengers for a very few miles and have not worried about it... considering we are frequently passed by Greyhounds doing >75 mph, and at time even school buses moving right along.

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Old 09-25-2012, 08:28 PM   #4
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in virginia i have been told if the vehicle did not come with seat belts they are not required. but that is only hearsay
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:57 PM   #5
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I wonder if the seat belts are tucked underneath your sofa? I've never seen an RV without belts for the sofa. Maybe the factory forgot to install them?
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:18 PM   #6
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I wonder if the seat belts are tucked underneath your sofa? I've never seen an RV without belts for the sofa. Maybe the factory forgot to install them?
I vote for this answer! By the way...what year is your Executive?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #7
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I wonder if the seat belts are tucked underneath your sofa? I've never seen an RV without belts for the sofa. Maybe the factory forgot to install them?
Our coach was fitted at the factory with lap seat belts for only the two front captain's chairs. It left the factory with two sofas, but no seat belts were provided for them.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:19 PM   #8
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that we can have passengers and they don't have to worry about seat belts
I don't worry about seat belts, but I do worry a lot about a lack of seat belts.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:01 PM   #9
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Hi RanDee

I copied this from the highway traffic act for Ontario. I hope it will answer your question about seat belts.

Seat belts
Seat belt assembly must not be removed or altered
106. (1) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle in which a seat belt assembly required under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) at the time that the vehicle was manufactured or imported into Canada has been removed, rendered partly or wholly inoperative, modified so as to reduce its effectiveness or is not operating properly through lack of maintenance. 2006, c. 25, s. 1.
Use of seat belt assembly by driver
(2) Every person who drives on a highway a motor vehicle in which a seat belt assembly is provided for the driver shall wear the complete seat belt assembly as required by subsection (5). 2006, c. 25, s. 1.
Use of seat belt assembly by passenger
(3) Every person who is at least 16 years old and is a passenger in a motor vehicle on a highway shall,
(a) occupy a seating position for which a seat belt assembly has been provided; and
(b) wear the complete seat belt assembly as required by subsection (5). 2006, c. 25, s. 1.
Driver to ensure young passenger uses seat belt assembly
(4) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle in which there is a passenger who is under 16 years old unless,
(a) that passenger,
(i) occupies a seating position for which a seat belt assembly has been provided, and
(ii) is wearing the complete seat belt assembly as required by subsection (5); or
(b) that passenger is required by the regulations to be secured by a child seating system or child restraint system, and is so secured. 2006, c. 25, s. 1.

I did see that buses are exempt from this, but I'm not sure if your Class A will be exempted since its not truly a bus.
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Few, if any, Class A motorhomes fall under state or provincial general seat belt laws, i.e. they are not considered to be "passenger vehicles' by most of them. In other words, the rules are typically different for large vehicles. Consider that city buses and school buses seldom are required to have seat belts for all passengers.

I stipulated Class A above because Class C's are built on a van-cutaway or light truck chassis that would normally fall under passenger vehicle rules.
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Mine came with 7 seat belts in back.. 4 booth, 2 couch, 1 chair. Plus 2 for driver and passenger, of course. The ones in back were all tucked away and looks to have never been used...
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Mine is just the opposite of Midniteoyl - seat belts on the two front seats only.

At one time the RVIA was requiring that RV manufacturers install a seat belt for every person the RV was rated to carry, i.e. the number of people identified in the SCWR rating. That was dropped some time back, maybe around 2003?
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Mine is just the opposite of Midniteoyl - seat belts on the two front seats only.

At one time the RVIA was requiring that RV manufacturers install a seat belt for every person the RV was rated to carry, i.e. the number of people identified in the SCWR rating. That was dropped some time back, maybe around 2003?
Makes sense..
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:02 PM   #14
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The bottom lines are these:

1: In most vehicles you can add seat belts after market if you wish.

2: Your millage may vary depending on where you are chalking up said miles.. That is Laws vary from place to place.

3: The laws of physics are the same for all.. If you stand on the brakes, Bodies on couch are going to fly forward.. NOT a good outcome.
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