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Old 05-03-2016, 12:55 PM   #1
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I few more tire questions. I need to replace my MH tires, I have Michelin 235/80R/22.5G on there now, they are 10yrs old. I can't justify the $600+per tire to replace with Michelin's again. I got a price for Toyo but the size would change to 245/75R/22.5G which the tire guys said would be the comparable size in Toyo, their price is $369 per tire. I went online and found the same tire at Simple Tire at $240. per tire. Has anyone used Simple Tire? They say they ship the tire right to one of their installers (Tire Kingdom), you thing the installers have a problem installing a tire purchased somewhere else?
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A couple of things. Ten year old tires, you more than got your money's worth. As a matter of fact you were probably living on 'borrowed' time for a number of years. Now it is time to pay the borrowed time back.
Some installers get pretty finicky when replacing a tire shipped to them. Only way to know for sure is to ask them and sweet talk them. They may even lower their price when faced with that situation. OTOH they may rip it to you on install price.
Make certain wherever you get the tires, the DOT date code is less than six months old on all six.
Do several searches on this forum regarding changing tire size and rating. Make certain 1) they fit not only in well but next to each other in duals and 2) they are compatible with your speedometer.
I had great experiences with Toyo's on my cars, pick ups and s.u.v.'s but I don't think I would put them on MH. I have several reasons, some make sense and others are choice.
Remember you lives are literally depending on your tires. They are probably the most important insurance you can buy. I feel your pain. They are not cheap, even with an FMCA discount. I am coming up on my third set for this MH and I am bracing myself.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:31 PM   #3
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We have Michelins on our drive axle but two years ago we put Hankooks on the steer axle because of price and availability issues. The manager at TCI said that he was just as comfortable selling Hankook as Michelin and the price was also in the ~$375 range.

We've found the Hankook tires to perform as well or better than the Michelin. The ride is quieter and smoother. When I replace the drive axle tires in another couple of years I won't bother with Michelin.
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A couple of things. Ten year old tires, you more than got your money's worth. As a matter of fact you were probably living on 'borrowed' time for a number of years. Now it is time to pay the borrowed time back.
Some installers get pretty finicky when replacing a tire shipped to them. Only way to know for sure is to ask them and sweet talk them. They may even lower their price when faced with that situation. OTOH they may rip it to you on install price.
Make certain wherever you get the tires, the DOT date code is less than six months old on all six.
Do several searches on this forum regarding changing tire size and rating. Make certain 1) they fit not only in well but next to each other in duals and 2) they are compatible with your speedometer.
I had great experiences with Toyo's on my cars, pick ups and s.u.v.'s but I don't think I would put them on MH. I have several reasons, some make sense and others are choice.
Remember you lives are literally depending on your tires. They are probably the most important insurance you can buy. I feel your pain. They are not cheap, even with an FMCA discount. I am coming up on my third set for this MH and I am bracing myself.
Why don't you state a reason you wouldn't put them on your RV

There are numerous threads worth positive reviews on the Toyos

OP the Toyos are just fine, I run the exact same size on my RV

Michelin are over rated and over priced
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:24 PM   #5
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Nothing wrong with Simple Tire - they have a good reputation for living up to their promises. But be careful about that low price you saw. The quote is normally given without Federal Excise Tax and shipping, and that can easily add $100/tire.

Before you decide, get an "out the door" price on those Toyos and compare the dealer price to what you will pay for the ones from Simple Tire once all costs are included. For mine (a much larger tire than yours), the price was almost identical. Simple was about $10/tire cheaper.
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I used SimpleTire and loved the experience. I found an installer, my local Les Schwab dealer, and had SimpleTire ship to them. They cheerfully called me when they came in and we scheduled installation for the next day. SimpleTire even read me the date codes before I ordered; as you know time kills rv tires, not mileage. I installed a full set of Hercules tires with balance beads and love them.
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Michelin Tires are overrated there are far more complaints on the Michelins on here than any of the cheaper brands. I was a Heavy Haul truck driver for most of my life and the no name tires almost always out perform the big names Michelin, Goodyear etc. Just my insight its your money by what you want.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:21 PM   #8
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Dot on tires in usa

Tires used in US have to pass DOT standards.

If anybody travels overseas, you don't have DOT stopping trucks and weighing. In China if the truck holds it, it goes down the road.

I have used Samson & Hercules on several busses. Samson my choice over all. No Michelin sidewall cracks or Goodyear cupping.

Just my two cents, not wanting any shout back.
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Thanks for the responses! After looking at the shipping and FET charges, the local tire guy wasn't to far off so I think I will go with him and get the Toyo's. I just hope the DOT dates are good. What is the best I could hope for?
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Tires used in US have to pass DOT standards.
That's true, but there is no DOT quality standard. The DOT spec requires certain tire information and labeling on the tire so that you know what you are getting, but there is nothing that says that tire will be reliable or long lasting or have good traction.

Nor does the DOT test tires. They merely require that the manufacturer self-certify that each tire meets DOT requirements.
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Check your size and maybe search y forum on your size.

CC and a few others used that size and only Michelin makes them.

There is another size that is darn near exact same diameter and a bit wider but cannot remember...Have that size toyo on ours...

It is an 80 size and larger first number.

The larger first number against the 80 makes it darn close and is the standard replacement.

Search toyo replacement for your size and you will get many hits or someone else will provide it.
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I found this site. Interesting https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires
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If you are near a Love's Fuel Stop that has a tire shop stop by & get some prices from them. They are usually very competitive.
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I would be equally curious if anyone has had good luck or any tips on SIMPLE TIRE. The prices are certainly attractive and they will date code tires and ship them to any installer.

My current issue I am dealing with now is you need to call and get permission to ship the tires to dealer (prior to buying) and the list of recommended install shops from SIMPLE TIRE mostly don't handle RV/COMMERCIAL tires due to sizes. I was not surprised when I got a quote from a shop that has skills/tools needed to handle the swap that were 2X-3X their shelf rate. <-I don't blame them...I don't got to McD's and cook my own hamburger either.

I am replacing Continental HSR's on our 2012 Holiday Rambler which are 225/70/19.5 (G rated) with 2010 dates. Through the FMCA Michelin program (which everyone should use or at least check)-I have been quoted $2800 for all 6 to go Michelin or I can go TOYO's, SUMITOMO's for $1500-Assuming $40-50 a tire to install through Simple Tire.

If anyone knows a tire dealer that can mount tires in Chattanooga, TN area (or even close) I would drive to save the $. Worse case-I would love to see if you have any tips on using SIMPLE TIRE.
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