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12-08-2011, 07:49 AM
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Slides- do they need to be fully extended?
I searched through 4 pages and 180 results under the word SLIDES, but could not find an answer.
Question is, do the slides need to be fully extended or retracted to use?
Sometimes where we park, we do not have enough room to fully extend our slide. So, would it hurt the slide if we only extended it half way?
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12-08-2011, 07:57 AM
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With the slides partly deployed you don't have a seal to the outside, you can see daylight at the sides of the opening. This will cause bugs and loss of A/C in the summer and loss of heat in the winter. I don't think the slides would be very stable for use in this situation.
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12-08-2011, 08:03 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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Just my opinion but YES it would "hurt" the slide to use while extended half way. The "extended portion" (leveraged weight) would only be held up by the extending device with no help from the wall frame. Then depending on the weight of people/furniture etc. it could damage the mechanics.
Also, how about the wind and rain as most slides only truly seal at fully out or in......
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12-08-2011, 08:08 AM
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The slides are only sealed when fully extended or fully retracted. There will be an issue with trying to keep a constant temperature and keeping the bad weather out. It's like leaving a window open during a rain storm or when trying to heat or cool the interior. Due to the fact that nothing is sealed there might also be an issue with critters getting in.
Be sure to read through your manual about the procedure for extending and retracting the slides. Our manual specifically states that the slides should be fully extended before they can be retracted. We have an HWH hydraulic system with an equalizing cylinder to make sure both extend/retract cylinders go in and out at the same rate. If the slide isn't fully extended before you attempt to retract it the cylinders could be out of balance and cause the slide to bind.
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12-08-2011, 08:18 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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My manual stated to always extend fully and if the extension was stopped for any reason, to complete the extension process before retracting the slide.
My bedroom slide was making a popping sound while moving in slightly while we were in bed. HWH says that is caused by air in the lines and that we should always run a slide pump for about three seconds once it is in or out to fully pressurize the circuit.
My take on this is that's also why they want the complete cycle on deployment to avoid air pockets in the lines. The other replies regarding structure and weather seal sound appropriate, too.
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12-08-2011, 08:32 AM
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Question answered.
Thanks guys.
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12-08-2011, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricGT
I searched through 4 pages and 180 results under the word SLIDES, but could not find an answer.
Question is, do the slides need to be fully extended or retracted to use?
Sometimes where we park, we do not have enough room to fully extend our slide. So, would it hurt the slide if we only extended it half way?
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If you can't fully extend your slide then use it with the slide in, like you would do if boondocking for the night at Wally-World. Think about using something that is teetering on the side of your rig, which is what you would be doing - - how safe would that be.
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12-09-2011, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricGT
I searched through 4 pages and 180 results under the word SLIDES, but could not find an answer.
Question is, do the slides need to be fully extended or retracted to use?
Sometimes where we park, we do not have enough room to fully extend our slide. So, would it hurt the slide if we only extended it half way?
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When I extend my slides, the last 4 or so inches are raised so the slide can rest on a support. I wouldn't use a slide that is missing that support.
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12-09-2011, 11:33 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Occasionally we will be in a spot that doesn't have room for a full extension and have put them out as far as space would allow.
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12-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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When stopping briefly, say in a rest area for lunch, I will extend what slides I need to whatever limit imposed by the space I am in. Key word briefly. Never a problem
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12-09-2011, 02:18 PM
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Both Monaco and HWH state that you should never stop the travel in the middle. Once you start slide moving you have to complete the travel before reversing direction. Also other than the air leaks as previously stated the slides are not fully supported unless locked all the way out or in. You might get away with half travel for a period of time but I believe HWH have learned from all the customers on what breaks them and what doesn't.
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12-10-2011, 07:02 AM
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My slides are powered by electric motors. When I'm at the stick house and I don't want to put the MH up on the ramps I have built, I will extend the super slide about 12 inches.(They go out a total of 25 inches.) This allows us to get into the pantry, and for DW to have full access to her closet. I have an 8 inch slope to my driveway. To extend that slide fully puts a lot of strain on the mechanisms when it is not level. Putting it out to 12 inches has never hurt it.
Once on travel we had a failure of the "slide locks" and it cause the slide to bind. We could put it out that same 12 inches, but any more than that and we needed assistance to get the slide back in with someone pushing on it from the outside. So for several days until we could get to a place that could repair it (didn't know what the problem was at that specific time) I used it with the slide partially extended. In this ode the bed sits on a set of rails and is fully supported, and the slide is fully supported on the glide pads. I never had a problem using this configuration.
I watch the weather and should it appear to maybe rain I would leave the slide in versus extending only partially in order to provide a solid seal.
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12-10-2011, 07:21 AM
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My slides are electric. If you stop part way out, the next press of the button retracts them. If your kitchen is one slide, the weight will never change regardless of where it is so that shouldnt be a problem. It wont be as well sealed, but...
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12-10-2011, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricGT
I searched through 4 pages and 180 results under the word SLIDES, but could not find an answer.
Question is, do the slides need to be fully extended or retracted to use?
Sometimes where we park, we do not have enough room to fully extend our slide. So, would it hurt the slide if we only extended it half way?
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I was told to fully extend slides. Partial has a damaging effect on the supporting rails. Manual says nothing about partial extension.
Good luck
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