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Old 04-20-2019, 07:05 PM   #1
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Stiffer steering

Has anyone noticed a very noticeable difference in the amount of stiffness (amount of strength/hard steering) increase after installing a steering stabilizer? I installed a Roadmaster RSSA stabilizer on my coach and like the way it helps coach from pulling to low side of road and seems to take the jolt out of steering wheel when hitting a deep pot hole, But, I also notice it requires a lot more effort to steer especially at low speeds. Seems the power steering pump is not able to overcome the resistance of the stabilizer cylinder.
Maybe it's just me or maybe this is normal but I would like to hear others comments after installing a steering stabilizer.

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IMO; That is normal operation. The stabilizers/double-acting shocks place resistance to movement in either direction, the driver must exert extra force moving the steering wheel to overcome that resistance.
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:06 PM   #3
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well I do have that same unit , and no noticeable extra stiffness. my RV only has 5,500 miles on it. I put the roadmaster reflex stabilizer on after my first short trip with RV
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I would double check that your not getting any rubbing between the moving and stationary parts.

Look for wear marks in the paint.
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:00 AM   #5
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Some claim it's normal...however. My experience was similar after I installed a Steer Safe.

The resistance got progressively worse. The OEM of the device claimed it wouldn't cause extra resistance in steering.

I tried flushing the power steering system..no help. Checked for clogged filter...my system didn't have one. Replaced the fluid....no help.

In the end I replaced the power steering pump....amazing difference. Not saying yours is bad.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:05 AM   #6
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Some claim it's normal...however. My experience was similar after I installed a Steer Safe.

The resistance got progressively worse. The OEM of the device claimed it wouldn't cause extra resistance in steering.

I tried flushing the power steering system..no help. Checked for clogged filter...my system didn't have one. Replaced the fluid....no help.

In the end I replaced the power steering pump....amazing difference. Not saying yours is bad.
"The OEM of the device claimed it wouldn't cause extra resistance in steering".

Yes, that is what I was told by etrailer when I purchased mine. I did notice right away that the steering was stiffer but thought it was normal. On our last trip last week, even though the handling was good, I felt more stress in my wrist and forearms from the added stiffness in the steering.
I have checked that nothing is rubbing anywhere and wouldn't think with only 20K miles on the coach that the power steering pump was bad but that could always be possible with anything mechanical. Not sure how to check it and don't want to just start changing parts to find a gremlin.
I may remove the stabilizer and take a drive and see if it makes a difference.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:13 AM   #7
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I see you have a gas coach, and I don't have firsthand knowledge of how to check that type of pump.
On my Cummins engine Freightliner installed, FL had specific flow rates for checking the pump. There was also an overpressure checkvalve in my pump, but tearing it apart and messing around wasn't worth it to me when I found a slightly used pump for under $200.
When driving and the RPM was up around 1800 or more, steering was better, so I knew the pump was low on output down around idle speed.
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I installed a Steer Safe on my DP years ago and hated how it required more steering input. I removed it and sold it. I later added the TruSteer which was a powered stabilizer and loved it.
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The device definitely makes the steering mechanism stiffer (cause that's what it does), but in many (most?) cases the power steering pump overcomes it. Your pump may be worn, less capable, etc.
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I put the Roadmaster Reflex unit on my XC Freightliner chassis. 1st hundred miles I noticed increased effort. Then it mostly went away. It helps a little in cross winds and passing trucks.
I got the crappy Good Year G670 with very unusual tread wear. Outside rib is wavy. If they go I hope the steering assist helps.
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I removed the Stabilizer today and ran some back roads and some Interstate. Defiantly a difference in stiffness of steering. But I could also feel the road crown more, a lot more!! So I feel that the Stabilizer is doing it's job.
Came home and reinstalled in the same position. I would rather live with the stiffness in the steering than having to adjust the steering wheel for the pull from road crown and low spots.

Maybe as Fiesta48 stated, in a couple hundred miles it will loosen up, or my wrist and forearms will build up to the point I don't notice it anymore.

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Those steering stabilizers will add resistance to your steering.

The one time I really, really noticed it was in a small town and making a sweeping low-speed turn to the right. I let off the accelerator to coast around the corner, and my engine shut off*. I was not able to get the steering wheel turned far enough to make it though the turn. Luckily there was no oncoming traffic and I was able to get the engine restarted before anyone else came around the turn.


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Previous owner installed one but I found it more tiring than the 85K miles I put on the same chassis without one. Removed it which helped but newer TRW steering box has a self centering feature which I find to be undesirable on anything but perfect conditions. Thinking of making an adjustable mount for the stabilizer I removed. Would not add a stabilizer that is not adjustable.
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I just recently had the Roadmaster stabilizer installed on our Bay Star. I've only driven it from the shop to home with a little detour to add some miles, and it added some resistance but nothing to make it feel like it would cause any fatigue. At a later date, after I've done some lengthy driving, I'll post a review, but our travel plans are on hold right now due my DW having to get a hip replacement.

FWIW....the majority of reviews on the Roadmaster are very positive. And, there are other factors to consider such as proper alignment, tire pressure, sway bars in use, etc.
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