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Old 03-11-2013, 11:41 AM   #15
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I have the Progressive unit now, had the Surge Guard before. Both have worked well. Both units have disconnected me from low and high voltages, which seems to be the most common problem. I've also had a couple instances when they wouldn't connect due to problems with the pedestal, which the camp electrician verified. Haven't had any surges that I know of (11 years of RVing). I have heard all kinds of horror tales about folks that didn't have some kind of protection. My take: it's like insurance. You hope you don't use it, but if you do, it's priceless. In mu opinion the cost of either unit is cheap insurance.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:43 AM   #16
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
I have the TRC 50amp hardwired. Caution light when pedestal was at 98volts, would not connect. Several times after power failures, holds re-connect for 2mins 15 sec to prevent load on appliances. Over 12 years, have had it trip for no obvious reason, about 1/2 dozen times- could have been momentarily power fail, spike, low voltage, but it worked... It does have the keyed bypass. Mine is wired so generator passes through it also.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:44 AM   #17
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Hi txhood,
When the surge protector activates, the coach looses all 120 VAC provided by the shore power cord. The answer to your question depends on your coach and if the inverter is on. In my coach I loose power to the microwave. That is about it. When power is restored, I must set the clock on the microwave.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:47 AM   #18
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One more thing: low voltages are really hard on air conditioners (low voltage results in higher amps which leads to more heat which, over time, will lead to premature failure). And when are you most likely to find low voltage? In the summer when everyone is running their air conditioners.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:13 PM   #19
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In my case it blew out a board in the HW50C.

Had to send the unit in for repair. Most impressive turn around I shipped it out FedEx on Monday and I had it back on Wednesday of the same week. No charge.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:25 PM   #20
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Here is a picture of my Surge Guard as installed yesterday. Camping now, works great. Easy to install.

Attachment 34632
This looks exactly like my setup. I have had it wired so since 2004.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:43 AM   #21
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
TxHood... The higher end units include a trouble-code display to tell you what happened when a fault occurs. For example, in the case of the Progressive HW50C here is the Error Code table from the manual:

E-0 Normal Condition
E-1 Reverse PolarityCondition (hot and neutral wires reversed)
E-2 Open Ground
E-3 Line 1 Voltage High (Line voltage above 132)
E-4 Line 1 Voltage Low (Line voltage below 104 volts)
E-5 Line 2 Voltage High (Line voltage above 132)
E-6 Line 2 Voltage Low (Line voltage below 104 volts)
E-7 Line Frequency High (Line frequency above 69 cyclesper second)

E-8 Line Frequency Low (Line frequency below 51 cyclespersecond)

E-9 Data Link Down

E-10 Replace Surge Protector Module



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If the EMS cuts the power to the RV it will show a PE
code following the E code. This denotes the previous error or
why the EMS shut down. Example: The EMS cuts power for
low voltage on Line 1, and then the power is restored. The Error
Code reads E0,but the PE code reads PE4 which tells the user
low voltage was the reason for the EMS previously cutting power.
This PE error code will be deleted when power is disconnected
from the EMS.
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
Lightning struck a transformer and my PI EMS dropped power to my rig. It cost my neighbor $3500.
It has also dropped due to over/under voltage in 2 different parks, and I could watch the display on the PI and see it do so after being there a few days. It was when A/C used peaked or fell during the day. Dont know if bacon was lost anywhere but my pig could still squeel when the PI restored power.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:31 AM   #23
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Installed a EMS unit a Progressive EMS unit last weekend, love it. Will show error codes and the display cycles through voltage, hertz and amperage.

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