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Old 03-09-2013, 10:29 AM   #1
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Surge Guard Install 50a HW

Here is a picture of my Surge Guard as installed yesterday. Camping now, works great. Easy to install.

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Others who want to do this might be interested in this comparison chart:
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:29 PM   #3
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Hi phinneyj,
Congrats on your surge guard. Mine has been installed 8 years. It work as advertised. It has save the coach more than once. Never had a problem. As to the link in post #2, maybe RV Upgrades needs to update their information. The chart may have been made by a competitor. The real information is:

From the Surge Guard web site:
Automatic reset on power restoration.
Multi-mode surge suppression



Automatically shuts off the power when the following is present:
  • Open neutral
  • Low (<102V) and High (>132V) Voltage
  • Reverse polarity
Caution indicator light indicates:
  • Miswired pedestal
  • Reverse polarity
  • Elevated ground voltage
128 second reset delay protects A/C compressor.
3850 Joules of power surge protection.
Easy installation



Optional Remote Power Monitor LCD Display (sold separately)
  • Plugs into remote port on Surge Guard models 34520& 34560
  • 16 Detailed Fault Screens
  • Joystick for easy screen navigation
  • Plug and Play
If it will fit in your electric bay, Surge Guard makes a good voltage regulator. Go to http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=18089 to see my installation.
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Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. It does look like there should be a few more "Yes" entries.

What is correct is 1 year warranty vs Lifetime warranty. One is made overseas somewhere and the other is made in USA.
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I installed my 50 amp HW surge guard when RV was new, it has worked as advertised. About 6 years ago, the main relay began chattering, called their tech and went over some checks, they replaced the unit, no hassle.
Another company that's good to work with.
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Something to think about ...

I carry 4 - small inline #6 splices (set screw type) and some rubber tape just in case the Surge Guard fails at some "inconvenient" point. It would only take a few minutes to bypass the surge protector to regain shore power. Obviously, you need to make sure you've unplugged the shore power and that the shore power didn't cause the failure. It's an inexpensive temporary "work-around" for a failing surge protector.
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The progressive ind. hard wired EMS has a bypass switch ( no need to rewire if it blows ). You then remove a board and send it back to them for free replacement for life.
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Hi phinneyj,
Congrats on your surge guard. Mine has been installed 8 years. It work as advertised. It has save the coach more than once. Never had a problem. As to the link in post #2, maybe RV Upgrades needs to update their information. The chart may have been made by a competitor. The real information is:

From the Surge Guard web site:
Automatic reset on power restoration.
Multi-mode surge suppression



Automatically shuts off the power when the following is present:
  • Open neutral
  • Low (<102V) and High (>132V) Voltage
  • Reverse polarity
Caution indicator light indicates:
  • Miswired pedestal
  • Reverse polarity
  • Elevated ground voltage
128 second reset delay protects A/C compressor.
3850 Joules of power surge protection.
Easy installation



Optional Remote Power Monitor LCD Display (sold separately)
  • Plugs into remote port on Surge Guard models 34520& 34560
  • 16 Detailed Fault Screens
  • Joystick for easy screen navigation
  • Plug and Play
If it will fit in your electric bay, Surge Guard makes a good voltage regulator. Go to Electrical Bay Better Picture Of Surge Protector - iRV2.com RV Photo Gallery to see my installation.

ours has performed flawlessly
its been in continuous service since early 2006, and spread between two rv's
it has saved out bacon several times
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I have the Progressive Industries HW50C.

As long as you have installed one, regardless of the brand, you are ahead of the game.

Now hope you never need it but be glad it's there.

Mine has saved my coach twice in the past 3 years.
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The progressive ind. hard wired EMS has a bypass switch ( no need to rewire if it blows ). .
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I did not know that !!
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
It depends on the unit and the issue. The most common. Issue in campgrounds is low voltage. Second and most destructive for 50 amp systems is an open or floating neutral. Most EMS type units cut off power if these type issues happen. Surges and spikes do happen and if strong enough will fry a circuit board or other component in the surge protection. Most can be repaired by the manufacturer.

The Progressive Industries units have a big following and a well deserved, excellent reputation. Their EMS units have a lifetime warrantee and the components are field serviceable.
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Those of you who say the surge protector has saved your bacon, how do you know that there was a surge or other issue that would have damaged your rv? I am new to rving and interested to know if this is a "must" have.
Excellent question. The answer pretty much has to be "you don't know". The units will tell you if they detected a problem and what that problem is/was (perhaps refusing to power up your RV until its corrected). In some serious faults, (like open neutral on a 50-amp service) you would certainly have been fried. In over/under voltage situations, your RV may or may not be damaged just depending on what was on at the time and how sensitive it is to the fault. The only way to know for sure that you would have been damaged is to not have the surge protector there when the fault occurred and then see the damage. Perhaps your neighbor sustained damage, but that's still not a proof-positive that you would have.

There are certainly stories out there from those who did get zapped, but were they at a campground that you visit? No easy answers obviously. Maybe it's easiest to think of it as insurance.
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