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Old 03-06-2009, 07:01 AM   #15
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I would also like to hear everyones thoughts on this.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:18 AM   #16
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A Must have. I think it should be factory installed in all units. More important then a TV in the basement for sure.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:55 AM   #17
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Don't know if it's more important that a TV in the basement. I encountered a 70 yr. old single fella who'd lost his wife awhile back, and who just fulltimed around by himself. HE whispered to me that the basement TV was......"a REAL chick magnet!!!"
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:13 AM   #18
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I am an RV master certified technician and I have seen many coaches over the years with thousands of dollars in damages from all kinds of power related problems that could have been avoided with a Surge Guard or equivalent system in place. I won"t plug my coach in with out one.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:18 AM   #19
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I am an RV master certified technician and I have seen many coaches over the years with thousands of dollars in damages from all kinds of power related problems that could have been avoided with a Surge Guard or equivalent system in place. I won"t plug my coach in with out one.
RV Wizard: Being a RV Tech how or would you use an Autoformer with a Surge Protector?
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:08 AM   #20
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I know of no RV that comes with surge protection built in.. IN fact, I know why that is so (Surge protectors need to be replaced from time to time)

There are two types of RVers

1: Those who need after market surge protection

2: Those who have more money then they can ever dispose of in their lifetime

So. figure out which group you are in.... And then get a good power line guard

NOTE: 2

Surger protectors are very poorly named.. There are two products that bear that name and it's not proper on either one.. The common power strip type surge guard (And you can get "Whole House" versions of this) is more properly called a SPIKE supressor.. it has devices which, should the power spike, can absorbe and dissapate very large amounts of power to protect your downline hardware

A SURGE however will blow them like firecrackers (I know, I was sitting right here surrounded by 'em when Detroit Edison surged my house)

A power line protector will sense over voltage, (SURGE) under voltage, and in some cases over/under frequency and/or bad waveform and kill power to your rig.. Most of the RV-Aftermarket "Surge Protectors' are in fact Power line protectors.

A power line conditioner (Something that costs big bucks) takes whatever the power line gives and converts it to very clean 120vac... Just so you know.. These units can easily cost thousands.. But outside of electronics stores you won't likely see one

One question I've seen from time to time is "Can I charge my battery and use the inverter to run things at the same time" And the answer is YES
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IN fact.. that is how a power line conditioner works
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:12 AM   #21
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After we also fried our convertor (on a previous motorhome) at a campground, my DH (being the original devout coward) bought both an autoformer and a Surge Gard 50 amp surge protector. We have the Surge Gard at the post and the autoformer in the basement hold. After reading more about what each did, I would probably advise my DH to go with just a surge protector. But, we have them both now and have not had a problem since.
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We bought a portable 50 amp SurgeGuard after a motorhome next to us had the electronics fried when the umbilical was connected to the pedestal. Turns out the circuit was putting out 220 volts on each leg instead of 120 volts.
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RV Wizard: Being a RV Tech how or would you use an Autoformer with a Surge Protector?
I would think that the Autoformer would be closest to the power source and then the Surge Guard. If voltage drops too low, the Surge Guard will disconnect power going into the coach.
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Reviving this thread with another question. Where in relation to the transfer switch inputs/output should a hardwire surge guard unit be wired? Between the land line input and the switch? Between the switch output and the coach panel? It seems the latter would protect either shore or generator power. Or is generator power steady enough not to worry?
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Progressive recommends putting it before the transfer switch input. Mine is hardwired into the shore power cable.
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The generator is not much of a concern for monitoring power quality. While it could fail in some way that messed up the voltage or polarity, it is extremely unlikely.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:34 PM   #27
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I have my 50amp SurgeGuard hard wired before the transfer switch. I know that it can happen but, I am not that worried about the generator power. To make it where I could still have power should the SurgeGuard be blown out, I put power plugs on the input side and output side and then I plug my land line into the input side and the output side is plugged into the normal plugin for the land line. Should the SurgeGuard be "blown" for whatever reason, I can by pass it until replace/fixed with my normal wiring on the MH.
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I have my 50amp SurgeGuard hard wired before the transfer switch.

me to i transferred it from my fiver when we sold it,
the display is next to the bed.
its got four years on it and has really been a big help during storms and surges
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