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Old 02-03-2013, 06:28 PM   #15
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Too bad about your Maxxforce 7 issues. Mine is golden. 11mpg with Wrangler toad and only starting to get broken in.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:53 PM   #16
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Too bad about your Maxxforce 7 issues. Mine is golden. 11mpg with Wrangler toad and only starting to get broken in.
When it ran it ran well with good MPG (10-11 no toad). Our problem was peculiar to our engine; no one else has ever had the same problem. As I said before...we loved our Serrano!
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:03 PM   #17
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While I have never owned a Thor product, I look at RVs with an engineers eyes and I am not impressed with the quality, fit and finish of the Thor products. Thor puts up a great shiny interior with a lot of glitz. It stops there. The overall quality from Thor is not what I would expect in a good RV.

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Old 02-03-2013, 07:45 PM   #18
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Agreed!
Maybe some day I will be able to afford a Fleetwood 42M and get rid of this Thor low quality MH
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:09 PM   #19
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I'm an owner of a 2006 Thor Hurricane 32D and I feel for the price I paid the coach is outstanding. The coach is an entry level class A and the fit and finish is compatible with any other builder's product within the sub class. Sure I would have liked 1/4" cabinet walls, barn door storage compartments or a fancy counter top but I had a budget. I have the same fridge, water heater, furnace, roof AC and such as a higher priced coach, plus, loaded for a week on the road for two adults I still have 1500 pounds available to add more stuff. I would have no real concerns packing out the coach tomorrow and headed out to Alaska. Well actually I would but only because of the cold.
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I'm an owner of a 2006 Thor Hurricane 32D and I feel for the price I paid the coach is outstanding. The coach is an entry level class A and the fit and finish is compatible with any other builder's product within the sub class. Sure I would have liked 1/4" cabinet walls, barn door storage compartments or a fancy counter top but I had a budget. I have the same fridge, water heater, furnace, roof AC and such as a higher priced coach, plus, loaded for a week on the road for two adults I still have 1500 pounds available to add more stuff. I would have no real concerns packing out the coach tomorrow and headed out to Alaska. Well actually I would but only because of the cold.

What I aint got I dont need. And am also about 1500 under.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:56 AM   #21
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I'm an owner of a 2006 Thor Hurricane 32D and I feel for the price I paid the coach is outstanding. The coach is an entry level class A and the fit and finish is compatible with any other builder's product within the sub class. Sure I would have liked 1/4" cabinet walls, barn door storage compartments or a fancy counter top but I had a budget. I have the same fridge, water heater, furnace, roof AC and such as a higher priced coach, plus, loaded for a week on the road for two adults I still have 1500 pounds available to add more stuff. I would have no real concerns packing out the coach tomorrow and headed out to Alaska. Well actually I would but only because of the cold.
Exactly! I am very happy with my Thor Palazzo and it is a very good coach at this price point. We looked at others but we kept coming back to the one I purchased.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:34 AM   #22
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I am not qualified to comment on the entire Thor product line as I have only been in three DPs; a Tuscany a Palazzo I test drove, and the Palazzo I own. However from my limited personal experience I can say some both positive and negative comments.
On the positive side:
Freightliner chassis, same as used on more expensive rigs
Cummins (NOT Cummings which is so often used incorrectly) engine
Onan diesel generator
Residential refrigerator
2 KW inverter
Lots of nice features

On the negative side:
Lousy, terrible, incomplete owners manual that fortunately is supplemented by the great information sharing on iRV2. This would not be such a big issue if I had previous RV experience and already knew how to handle all the systems.
Workmanship could be better in a few areas

While others can complain about the quality of the cabinetry, the lack of granite countertops, the lack of tile flooring, etc I don't need or want to spend a lot more to make my RV fancier than my house. My wife pushed me into redoing the home kitchen cabinets at major expense and I don't see that the new ones work any better than what we had to start with. I would rather get what I really need at a cost that is affordable than not be able to have what I think I need.

Another consideration is I think that Thor has been able to make pricing more affordable by having greater volume. The more affordable part may also affect what they pay the workforce and result in some less than perfect workmanship.

Regarding comparison with others something that has stuck in my mind is a comment about Tiffen and their lack of quality control, but they will fix anything you bring back to Red Bay.

So if you can "afford" a Newell, go for it. Or if you can get better than a Thor product at the same or better price, have at it, but I have not seen it.

Best advice is to have a detailed and thorough PDI including overnight stay before driving away from the dealer and be prepared to leave it there and not pay for it until everything is working as it should and you know how everything g functions. I have a video record of my PDI as a refresher but I know some places don't like it.
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I own a 2008 Windsport. I have not had any issues with it other than some minor things that were fixed within the first month of purchase. I personally don't think a person could/should comment on a product if they have not lived in one. That is just my two cents worth.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:05 PM   #24
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We have a Thor (Four Winds) product and are quite happy with it. We realize that in the food chain, we're closer to the bottom than the top, but we're fine with that. It was also priced closer to the bottom than the top. We bought what we could comfortably afford. The previous owner put in some nice upgrades, so we don't feel like we're lacking in some niceties. We also don't have the biggest or nicest house on the block or the best car, for that matter. There's a point for me where whatever we're buying is "nice enough" for the available money. I think Thor gives a nice bang for your buck.
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I love my 2013 Thor Challenger. No issues with quality. It has only has about 3000 miles on it so far but it has been in constant use for the past 6 months.
I got mine with the darker color wood interior which really makes it feel nice in my opinion. I have no complains.

If you would like to see pics or have any questions I'll be happy to help.
I bought it from Motorhome Specialist in Texas. They were awesome and seem to shoot straight.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:45 AM   #26
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I just purchased another Thor. My first was a Damon Outlaw. They are not a high end coach but also do not come with a high end coach price tag. Understanding that the construction materials are in line with the cost of the unit you want to treat everything with care and delicacy. I put 30,000 miles on our Outlaw and and it treated us as well as we treated it.

"I loved my Damon Outlaw"

Now, "I love my Thor Challenger"

Everything in life has a cost associated with it. Buying an entry level coach will get you a coach made with lower cost materials. I was all through my Outlaw from top to bottom and other than the materials, I found the workmanship to be more than acceptable. A true testament was when traveling down the road. It was as quiet as my car and that was unexpected.

Good luck with your choice. If you buy used, a good barometer of the previous owners will be the completeness of the records and manuals. There is no reason you shouldn't get everything that the coach was originally sold with including a complete set of service records. I know the next owner of my Outlaw will be more than happy.

As a side not. Don't let anyone paint Camping World service with a broad brush. My CW in Lakewood, NJ has always treated me well and their techs are extremely competent with their ability in servicing motor homes.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:27 PM   #27
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I am also an engineer so I look at things with an engineerís eye as well. I have owned two Thor motor coaches, a 2010 Serrano and my current 2013 Palazzo. I feel that the form fit and function of both coaches were/are good with few complaints. On the other hand the Workhorse chassis (break recall) and Navistar engine on the Serrano gave me a lot of problems. I had an engine problem (reoccurring) that resulted in 3 tows to the shop plus I had it in the shop 8 more times (11 in total in <6000 miles). I will say that Navistar did stand behind their product and tried to get it fixed but I lost confidence and my DW was always worried that it would leave us on the side of the road so I traded it in on my Palazzo. It was not the Thor coach it was the engine and if we did not have all the engine problems I would still own our Serrano.

It was not Thorís fault that I was having problems with the Navistar engine. Minus the engine issues we loved the Serrano! Our Palazzo with the Freightliner chassis and Cummings engine has always got use where we wanted to go and we are very pleased with our Palazzo.
It might not have been Thor's fault, but it still was in a Thor and comes as part of the Thor package. Three tows and eight extra trips to the shop is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Obviously you thought so too, and dumped it.
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It might not have been Thor's fault, but it still was in a Thor and comes as part of the Thor package. Three tows and eight extra trips to the shop is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Obviously you thought so too, and dumped it.
Ken,

I do not choose to blame Thor for a Navistar issue. As I stated, we loved the coach but due to an ongoing engine problem I traded it in. BTW, I drove it for 800 miles after the last repair without a problem (2nd longest trip) and prior to the trade so it could of been the final fix but my DW was not convinced and was afraid to take it anywhere. Easier to trade then to listen to her worry about the next shoe falling. As you can also see I traded it in and purchased another Thor product. Blaming Thor for a chassis, engine, transmission, or accessory problem would be like blaming all of American for the actions of a few idiots in Washington!

In Navistar's defense, they worked very hard to fix the issue, a problem they have never seen before or since. During the process I was disappointed and upset but it was not directed at Thor. Other owners love the Workhorse chassis, Navistar Maxxforce 7 engine application and when it worked it worked to my complete satisfaction.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion therefore if your opinion is Thor sells low quality products then that is your opinion however I repetitively disagree. It is a good quality product for the price point.

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