Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > MH-General Discussions & Problems
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-16-2005, 04:39 PM   #1
Community Moderator
 
Petro's Avatar


 
Winnebago Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Weyauwega, WI US
Posts: 5,789
I called the service center today to make an appointment to have a front wheel balanced. I was told that the best way is to use Equal or balancing beads. Anybody have any experience with this and any suggestions? I have never seen it or used it.

Thanks;
Don
__________________

__________________
Don & Bev Morgan Weyauwega WI, 05 Itasca Horizon 40KD, 400 HP Cummins, Delorme GPS LT 40, Toad 07 Saturn Vue AWD, Air Force One, TST 510 TPMS, Mayor of Weyauwega 2007 - 2013, Waupaca Co Board Supervisor 2010 - 2014
Petro is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-16-2005, 04:39 PM   #2
Community Moderator
 
Petro's Avatar


 
Winnebago Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Weyauwega, WI US
Posts: 5,789
I called the service center today to make an appointment to have a front wheel balanced. I was told that the best way is to use Equal or balancing beads. Anybody have any experience with this and any suggestions? I have never seen it or used it.

Thanks;
Don
__________________

__________________
Don & Bev Morgan Weyauwega WI, 05 Itasca Horizon 40KD, 400 HP Cummins, Delorme GPS LT 40, Toad 07 Saturn Vue AWD, Air Force One, TST 510 TPMS, Mayor of Weyauwega 2007 - 2013, Waupaca Co Board Supervisor 2010 - 2014
Petro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2005, 05:17 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Arcadia, FL
Posts: 183
Dynamic balancers such as equal has been arround for a long time and has many happy users. Have them check the tire for roundness also.
__________________
Richard and Babs

and a Bob Tail Cat
Richard and Babs and a Bob Tail Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2005, 08:27 AM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Plover, WI USA
Posts: 26
Don, I purchased 6 new G670s from Schierl Tire in Plover and after 2 attempts to spin balance them, I asked them to put in the beads. I have used them in the past and they work very good. I still had a vibration. They found 2 of the new tires were out of round. As I write this they are replacing the 2 bad tires. After my experience, I suspect that some out-of-balance problems could be out-of-round issues.

In answer to your question, though,I prefer the plastic beads to the equal, because moisture will affect the equal and not the beads.

Doug
__________________
Doug Polzin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2005, 01:28 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
grye's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: SC
Posts: 16
I have not used liquid, beads or powder, however I have used Balance Masters, here, and Centramatic,here, with great success. You can change from one MoHo to another and/or keep them in use when you change tires. If the tires are out of round, just rotate on rim until they are in round or exchange the tire.

You will be pleased with either one, however I like the Balance Masters after using both. They are filled with mercury, whereas the Centramatics use oil and lead shot.
__________________
2002 Monaco Windsor 40', 350HP ISC, Banks, Van X-Braces, TRW Steering, Source CCV, Bilsteins
2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2" Lift Package
grye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2005, 02:30 PM   #6
Community Moderator
 
Petro's Avatar


 
Winnebago Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Weyauwega, WI US
Posts: 5,789
As a follow up, I have put about 4000 miles on since I put equal in and I am very happy. My dealer said he felt the problem from moisture comes from applying too much lubricant on the beads and it messes up the equal. I installed special valve cores also. Thanks everybody for your input.

Don
__________________
Don & Bev Morgan Weyauwega WI, 05 Itasca Horizon 40KD, 400 HP Cummins, Delorme GPS LT 40, Toad 07 Saturn Vue AWD, Air Force One, TST 510 TPMS, Mayor of Weyauwega 2007 - 2013, Waupaca Co Board Supervisor 2010 - 2014
Petro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2009, 08:29 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Pubtym's Avatar


 
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,112
There's tire and rim balancing with weights...always start with that. Then, if you want total "wheel" balancing (tire-rim-brake hub and hub external and internal parts) you need to move to a dynamic system like Centramatic.

'The Centramatic Continuous Wheel Balancer consists of 20-gauge steel galvanized mounting plate with an aluminum balancing tube attached. Shot sized balancing weights are inserted into the balancing tube lubricated by a synthetic moly oil. The balancer mounts behind the wheel and centrifugal force redistributes the balancing weights opposite of out of balance points as the wheel rotates. The Company claims the dissimilar metallic composition of the balancer, i.e. steel mounting plate and aluminum balancing ring, dissipates wheel/tire heating while in operation. This feature is called "ThermoFlow" by the Company. Basic rules of thermal physics apply as different metals have different coefficients of contraction/expansion with convection heat transfer migrating to the metallic content with the highest coefficient of expansion/contraction, i.e. rapid transfer from the wheel/hub/tire assembly to the steel mounting plate to the aluminum tube. The Company has been manufacturing the balancers for sixteen years concentrating on the heavy duty trucking market and RV applications with over 400,000 sets on the road, according to the Company.'

http://www.centramatic.com/balancer.html

I have them on front steer tires and rear duals....you don't know what a vibration free ride is till you spend the money for them.

See what top line motor coaches are equipped with the 700 Series Balancers
__________________
Pubtym, 20th SOS "Green Hornet" , Viet Nam 68-69,
2015 Thor A.C.E 29.3
Pubtym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2009, 09:48 PM   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
Gary RVRoamer's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Silver Springs, FL. USA
Posts: 18,085
Here is one liquid balancing product:
TIRE BALANCERS
__________________
Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition
Home is in the Ocala Nat'l Forest near Ocala, FL
Summers in Black Mountain, NC
Gary RVRoamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 10:29 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Paulin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: No. CA
Posts: 405
I'm interested in dynamic balancers and sent one of the companies an email to see if they had a set to fit my rig. They replied asking the bolt circle and stud size. How can I determine this information without dismounting tires, etc.?
__________________
Paulin
Paulin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 03:59 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 194
I equal put in with new tires, my front wheels would bounce down the highway. I took my rv to a tire balance to have them balanced. I had to pay them to remove the equal powered, then spin balance. I was told by two experts that sell equal, they had people that are happy, but some people have problems. They say it is always best to spin balance. I agree from my experience and money wasted trying to use equal. I still have it in my rear tires, but I plan on having it removed next rotation when they get mounted up front.
__________________
Eagle123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2009, 05:54 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Wizard's Avatar


 
Winnebago Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Home on the hill in Georgia
Posts: 2,458
I had 6 new tires put on and equal put in them. A few hundred miles down the road, I pulled into a Goodyear service center because of severe shaking. The service tech put them on his balancer and the left one would make his machine shake. Had to put on a new tire, it balanced with only a few ounces of lead. Didn't put Equal back in. The other front, he had to remove equal to get it to balance. it was so far off that he had to rotate the tire 180 degrees on the wheel then it balanced good. After a couple of thousand miles they drive much better. I'm thinking about when I return home, I will have it removed from the rears too. I'm not real impressed with the Equal or Goodyear but am really impressed with the Goodyear dealer I went to in Platte City, Mo.
__________________
Jerry & Patsy Potter, Taz & Jake Jr.
2000 Winnebago Journey
2006 Ford Explorer 4X4
Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2009, 07:58 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Grayson, GA
Posts: 862
My motor home tires were originally balanced with wheel weights -- very good ride. I just replaced all of the tires and had them all balanced with wheel weights again --- still a very good ride. The dealer that I purchased my tires from only sells truck tires and he said that the only way to go was to balance them with the wheel weights.
__________________
Dave and Karen -- '02 Ultimate Advantage 36 C, 350 HP Cummins, Allison 3060 Tranny
'07 Ford Escort, Brake Master 4160, '13 Ford Edge, InvisiBrake
David K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2009, 12:44 AM   #13
Junior Member
 
Bob Endeavor's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 20
I just had nitrogen put in all six tires and am very happy with the ride improvement as well as not needing to check the inflation as often. I was skeptical of any ride improvement claims but after three close friends swearing to improvement I tried it. Only cost $17.50 per with unlimited top offs as necessary. Well worth the cost. my 2 cents.
__________________
Mike and Dar
06 Endeavor 40 PDQ
lots of sand toys
Bob Endeavor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2009, 01:18 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
AkTrek's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 153
We strongly believe in good timely coach maintenence and brought our W20 Workhorse Chassis into Dick at Precision Frame and Alignment in Elk River Minnesota. We had our Coach four cornered weighed, tire pressure correctly adjusted all around and the alignment checked. After having our chassis lubed and kingpins greased we adjusted the SteerSafe steering stabilizer (Love the SteerSafe!) and took it for a 10mile test drive. Although everything was tracking perfect, we noticed a pronounced vibration in the front end. Dick lifted the front end up and Spun balanced both tires on the coach. By doing it this way everthing is compensated for. Hubs, rotors, TSP sensors and tires are all balanced at once. Our Trek rides virtually vibration free and tracks perfect. If you can find a service that can spin balance your tires on the coach this is a great solution. You do have to remember that if the tires are removed they have to be replaced in the same lug position.
__________________

__________________
Denny & Nancy Macom RV-Trek.com
'07 Trek29RBD Wh20/8.1 Ultrapower Taylor Wires SteerSafe SMI SIP Tow Brake
Koni Shocks Front/RearTracBars MotoSat F1 DataStorm PressurePro 02 Honda CRV
AkTrek is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Large (22.5") Tire Balancing AnotherGeorge Fleetwood Products Owner's Forum 9 02-20-2009 07:20 PM
Tire Balancing Eddie Foy MH-General Discussions & Problems 19 02-18-2009 04:42 PM
Tire Balancing Highgturn Excel Owner's Forum 7 06-01-2007 02:22 AM
Tire balancing/pressures jetar Alpine Coach Owner's Forum 3 05-07-2005 04:09 AM
Large (22.5") Tire Balancing MH-General Discussions & Problems 10 12-31-1969 07:00 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.