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Old 03-19-2016, 08:50 AM   #15
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By the way,


The fuel coming out of that pump is all the same color from the same tank.


It's just the fuel pump is on a non-tax setting when you chose refer fuel.


Thank you all for not saying (SEMI TRUCK). There is no such thing but thats for another thread.


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What is a semi truck?
A tractor with an auto-transport semi-trailer. Semi-trailer truck with sleeper behind the cab. A semi-trailer truck is a large vehicle that consists of a towing engine, known as a tractor in the United States and truck in many other places, attached to one or more semi-trailers to carry freight. (google quote)

Whats your spin ?

Would that be the same as calling an Aero Scout Pilot a Loach Pilot...jus sayn
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Old 03-19-2016, 09:21 AM   #16
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Yup--Oregon, AZ and Indianna stand out to me as being different on diesel price for truckers. Believe in Or, they have a PUC tax that commercial vehicals pay separately so their diesel is cheaper at the pump. In AZ, auto diesel is cheaper than truck diesel [no over the road tax] some truck stops have separate "truck" pumps for use by RVs [eg, QT in Buckeye]. And in Indianna--who cares, no reason to go there [smile]
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Motorhomes get the rebate in Az, dont let anybody tell you any different. Doesnt matter whats its GVW is.
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Skypilot,


If you've ever looked at a tractor truck data plate, or registration, you'll find it's a tractor truck, not a semi truck, there is no such thing as a semi truck.


A semi trailer yes is designed to be towed with part of it's weight resting on the frame of the tractor truck.


But let's not steal this thread on differences of opinion.


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The fuel coming out of that pump is all the same color from the same tank.


It's just the fuel pump is on a non-tax setting when you chose refer fuel.


Thank you all for not saying (SEMI TRUCK). There is no such thing but thats for another thread.


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I guess it depends which state you are in, because in North Carolina it comes out as different color, probably added at the pump. The transportation police love to show up at RV gatherings and use a pipette to check the color of the fuel in your tank.
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I've always considered a Chevy El Camino or a Ford Ranchero a semi-truck.


Now back to the fascinating subject of various states and their fuel taxes.
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Wallacerm,


That's a new one on me, and I've been away from home and the road for a long time. So I'm guessing that's an easy way to keep some of us from cheating on the fuel taxes. Can I ask, where in NC have you run into these pumps that do the mixing???


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Well stated Bob----now remind me never to camp in North Carolina, my goodness, cops with pipettes. What's nexts, TSA agents with rubber gloves? [smile]
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State officers also show up at marinas in FL and check fuel color. Annoying as a live aboard to have let any yo-yo with a badge on your "home" to see what violations they can find. From EPA, Coast Guard, Fish and Wildlife, fuel police, customs..... Etc. No warrant required.
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Question: Bout 8 yrs ago when in AZ in RV was told to go inside the gas station office and ask for Tax refund as AZ was charging all diesel customers a commercial truck road tax. I remember getting refunds of $20 plus bucks at every fill up. Had to sign a receipt book as well. Is that still the case in AZ ?

I don't think it's the case any more (hence "truck" prices, and cheaper "auto" prices). I used to be Mobil, and 76 dealer in CA (for over 10 years), and I'm very familiar with CA fuel taxation, but not in AZ.

This truck stop was in the proverbial "middle of nowhere" in AZ desert (about half way between Quartzsite and Tonopah), easily recognizable by the BIG flag they fly there. It was 2AM, I needed the fuel, pulled over, and noticed two different prices. Pulled into "auto" section, and filled up. I was the only customer on that side of the facility. Clerks never said anything about me being on the wrong side. I figured "truck" price includes commercial tax, which I shouldn't be paying.
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Motorhomes get the rebate in Az, dont let anybody tell you any different. Doesn't matter whats its GVW is.
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Not true
In AZ the diesel fuel price is "Gross Vehicle Weight. (GVW) dependent".... (one price for all diesel powered vehicals with a GVR of 26,000 lbs or less.... a higher price for ANY diesel powered vehical with a GVR of more than 26,000 lbs).

"Legally" you can get the lower priced diesel ONLY if the GVW of your coach entitles you to the discount.

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FlyingDiver is spot on, but I've encountered truck pumps that require ICC number or some such that makes it impossible to pay at the pump.
When in Indiana and the pump ask for a ICC# put in 5 random numbers. Then go on to the next question.

That has worked for me.
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In AZ the diesel fuel price is "Gross Vehicle Weight. (GVW) dependent".... (one price for all diesel powered vehicals with a GVR of 26,000 lbs or less.... a higher price for ANY diesel powered vehical with a GVR of more than 26,000 lbs).

"Legally" you can get the lower priced diesel ONLY if the GVW of your coach entitles you to the discount.

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Thank you for that link. I was completely unaware of this! My GWR is 34000#, and I was in violation. I don't have problem paying FULL AZ tax, it's still WAY less than CA. The problem is,.......since I travel through MANY states, I think I will have to pull over at the truck stop, and allocate some time to search the web for pertaining "rules and regulations" for each state. This is getting INSANE.

Or,......just pick the highest priced fueling island, and call it good!
Commercial fueling pumps are high speed, so I might SAVE time fueling there, since "time IS money",........it's all for the good cause!
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When in Indiana and the pump ask for a ICC# put in 5 random numbers. Then go on to the next question.

That has worked for me.
Or use the number on the truck in the next lane...
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