Went to the St. Louis RV show what a disappointment.

[Steveoreno]

We go to the local St. louis RV show every other year or so. This year it was almost 95% trailers. The vendor both were really lame with companies selling siding pots and pans and other no rv stuff. The one thing that stuck out was the quality of the trailers and MH's. 300+ thousand dollar MH with a Tag axle and the drawers are stapled together. I thought the quality of stuff at the show was overall down with prices going up. Pretty sad. I was complaining at my 10 year old CC drivers window fogging. I would love to see any of these make it 10 years.

Rant over .........

[MSHappyCampers]

[stepside454]

We were there with our FCRV booth

[Mr John]

Hi HO Stevereno;
DW and I went to the Tamps, Fl. show last month and found the same situation with lack of quality with many major brand MH's. Cabinet doors sticking, drawers falling apart, etc, etc. the common response from sales person is; we will fix it before you take delivery. My answer is, why did it make it to the show in the first place to which I usually get a blank stare.

[cwsqbm]

The vast majority of RVs aren't engineered well and built even worse. The fact that its accepted practice for dealers to have to do extensive pre-delivery inspections to fix problems, even on "high end" models, shows that the RV industry is all about short term profit.

[Gormleys]

Part of it also is the fact that the number of MHs being sold has climbed dramatically in the past couple of years as the economy has improved. Higher demand means faster manufacturing which leads to poorer trained employees and more quality issues.

[tmw188]

Originally Posted by Steveoreno

We go to the local St. louis RV show every other year or so. This year it was almost 95% trailers. The vendor both were really lame with companies selling siding pots and pans and other no rv stuff. The one thing that stuck out was the quality of the trailers and MH's. 300+ thousand dollar MH with a Tag axle and the drawers are stapled together. I thought the quality of stuff at the show was overall down with prices going up. Pretty sad. I was complaining at my 10 year old CC drivers window fogging. I would love to see any of these make it 10 years.



Rant over .........

I thought there was a decent mix of class A, C's and B's with a lot of tow behinds. But yes the quality of even the more expensive units up to about the 180,000 were crap!

[tmw188]

Originally Posted by cwsqbm

The vast majority of RVs aren't engineered well and built even worse. The fact that its accepted practice for dealers to have to do extensive pre-delivery inspections to fix problems, even on "high end" models, shows that the RV industry is all about short term profit.

Typical of most things sold today

[cmpncrsaider]

Was thinking about going to the Atlantic City show this weekend, wonder if It will be any better!

[PeaceOwl]

Let's face it, anything with detail completely hand made will cost a mint.
Anything made in the good ol' USA will cost a mint, and take forever to build.

Anything in great demand will warrant hiring a lot of new workers, which is great for the economy, but not great for quality control.

[King Clark]

Wife and I went to the RV show in Houston and found most of the units to be TTs. We wanted to look at Class A DPs and did find exactly what we were looking for. We were not against TTs but found what we thought we would see in those units and decided they were not what we were interested in. We did not want to be closed minded and did wander through about twenty of them before making the decision that it was not our style. Then again we loved the Tiffin 37AP but did not care for the Zephyr. We did not see a Phaeton 40AH which is the same floor plan as the 37AP, were turned off on the Allegro RED 37 PA with only 5k towing capacity. As newbies everyone told us floorplan first and with that in mind we seem to have picked that out. Yes we looked at a number of other brand of RVs but they just did not strike our fancy.
As far as the add in items sold at the show we were dissapointed with what was there. We looked at some outside chairs but could not get anyone to come over to talk to us. Bought some nuts that are always seen at any show. Did find an old motorcycle riding buddy of mine as they own an RV campground and had their booth there. Bought a $1.69 coke for a mere $5.00. So all in all we were not unhappy with with the three hour drive up there, the ten dollar each entrance fee, ten dollar parking fee, the gps indicating we were 118 miles from home for four hours on the way back, the two hour wait at a restaurant to get a five dollar steak for thirty dollars, missing purchasing a ticket for the five hundred million dollar lottery as we sat in traffic not moving, because we did learn what we went there for and remembered why we moved from there after living there for eight years back in the seventies. Oh as a bonus we got to see a hit and run where a guy in a Jeep raced over and trapped the runners vehicle so he did not get away.

[mymyst]

IMHO check Entegra coaches and there new factory PDI process....coach has to be 100% before it is delivered to the dealer. The dealer hours per entegra pdi's have dropped by 300% over the last year; oh yes they do track this data. Tad Jenkins the Prez jayco motorized division has a mission and I for one believe it is working. Just imho!

[tmw188]

Originally Posted by King Clark

Wife and I went to the RV show in Houston and found most of the units to be TTs. We wanted to look at Class A DPs and did find exactly what we were looking for. We were not against TTs but found what we thought we would see in those units and decided they were not what we were interested in. We did not want to be closed minded and did wander through about twenty of them before making the decision that it was not our style. Then again we loved the Tiffin 37AP but did not care for the Zephyr. We did not see a Phaeton 40AH which is the same floor plan as the 37AP, were turned off on the Allegro RED 37 PA with only 5k towing capacity. As newbies everyone told us floorplan first and with that in mind we seem to have picked that out. Yes we looked at a number of other brand of RVs but they just did not strike our fancy.
As far as the add in items sold at the show we were dissapointed with what was there. We looked at some outside chairs but could not get anyone to come over to talk to us. Bought some nuts that are always seen at any show. Did find an old motorcycle riding buddy of mine as they own an RV campground and had their booth there. Bought a $1.69 coke for a mere $5.00. So all in all we were not unhappy with with the three hour drive up there, the ten dollar each entrance fee, ten dollar parking fee, the gps indicating we were 118 miles from home for four hours on the way back, the two hour wait at a restaurant to get a five dollar steak for thirty dollars, missing purchasing a ticket for the five hundred million dollar lottery as we sat in traffic not moving, because we did learn what we went there for and remembered why we moved from there after living there for eight years back in the seventies. Oh as a bonus we got to see a hit and run where a guy in a Jeep raced over and trapped the runners vehicle so he did not get away.

Yep nothing but fun.

[smlranger]

Originally Posted by Steveoreno

We go to the local St. louis RV show every other year or so. This year it was almost 95% trailers. The vendor both were really lame with companies selling siding pots and pans and other no rv stuff. The one thing that stuck out was the quality of the trailers and MH's. 300+ thousand dollar MH with a Tag axle and the drawers are stapled together. I thought the quality of stuff at the show was overall down with prices going up. Pretty sad. I was complaining at my 10 year old CC drivers window fogging. I would love to see any of these make it 10 years.

Rant over .........

Get that driver's window fixed for about $300 and you will still have a coach built better than most being built today.