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10-12-2014, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
Commercial Member
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Originally Posted by D in Davie
I had the same thing happen to me. Twice in Two Weeks just before a trip out west. I live in South Florida and kept the tires inflated to 80 pound. Both blow outs occurred when I tried to tow a toad and made a left turn. I found that the recommended 80 lbs of air is not sufficent to prevent excessive side to side movement. I also learned that not protecting my tires from the South Florida Sun ages them prematurely. I couldn't trust them any more so I replaced them all. I also learned that Goodyears are suseptible to this problem (Zipper) but I never pursued getting any help from them. The tires were 4 years old at the time of failure. I now keep my Brigestones at 95lbs and store the unit with tire covers. Sorry for your problems. I guess you could fight with Goodyear for some help with a new set but I did not want to put Goodyears on my MH again.
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80 psi or 95? Which is based on actual tire loads +10%
"Zippers" are the result of run low flex failure of the steel body ply.
This data confirms you are correct about not covering tires with white covers.
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10-12-2014, 03:25 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Jose, Ca, USA
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Originally Posted by Tireman9
This data confirms you are correct about not covering tires with white covers.
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Tireman - I am skeptical of tire covers based on my experience with them. Decades ago I used them religiously on a trailer. Every time we used the trailer I'd remove the tire covers and inspect the sidewalls - they were always pristine and I felt great about the usefulness of the covers. Then one day I was under the trailer doing some maintenance and noticed the sidewalls on the INSIDE - they were not protected by the tire covers and the sidewall cracking was extensive!
Maybe it was because of the different rubber compound used in trailer tires, but the explanation I got from my tire dealer (Wheel Works) was that ozone in the air was a larger culprit than the UV from the sun. So, if there are tire covers that completely cover ALL exposed areas of the tire then they would be effective, but the covers that only cover what you can see while standing beside the rig don't really do much.
Am I all wet, or is there some truth to this?
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2007 Bounder 35E being pushed by a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Sport S or a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JLU) Sport S
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10-12-2014, 03:29 PM
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Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Typical Goodyear...had the same thing happen on a 2002 GMC that came with those....JUNK!
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10-12-2014, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
Typical Goodyear...had the same thing happen on a 2002 GMC that came with those....JUNK!
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Sorry, a lot of us have run Goodyear's for years without an issue.
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10-12-2014, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich and Cork
Sorry, a lot of us have run Goodyear's for years without an issue.
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And by the same "token" many of us run Michelins with no troubles.
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10-13-2014, 08:49 AM
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Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich and Cork
Sorry, a lot of us have run Goodyear's for years without an issue.
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Yep, but when something like this happens..I'm done!
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10-13-2014, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
And by the same "token" many of us run Michelins with no troubles.
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10-13-2014, 09:51 AM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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I think Pandora's box is open on tires that is very similar to the ' I'll never have another Chevy or Ford or Dodge because that brand failed me. (Pick one) There are fleet companies that use nothing but GY or Michelin or whatever gives them the lowest cost per mile. Business associate I know purchased a large quantity of Case IH tractors and equipment. One tractor had serious problems three times in less than two months. The other 31 were just fine. If one person had received that one tractor he would have called it junk and bought green. Point is all things built by imperfect humans are imperfect.
Thanks,
Alan
2001 HR Scepter 38PBD 330 Cummins
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10-13-2014, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Wilson
Point is all things built by imperfect humans are imperfect.
Alan
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Any company, even those totally automated, can produce a lemon on any given day.
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10-13-2014, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich and Cork
Sorry, a lot of us have run Goodyear's for years without an issue.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
And by the same "token" many of us run Michelins with no troubles.
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Tires are a "crap shoot".
I ran the original set of 6 Goodyear G159 tires on my coach for 8 years, (and the 2nd set for 7 years), with NO cracks.... BTW they were never "covered".
However the sidewalls of my 3 year old Michelin XZEs look like this:
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10-13-2014, 12:25 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Location: Iowa
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Mel, my Michelins looked like that after three years and were like that still when they timed out four years later. Guys that changed them said they were still ok. Good thing, no disposal fee as they were all going to be sold as used.
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Alan
2001 HR Scepter 38PBD 330 Cummins
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10-13-2014, 12:30 PM
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Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
Any company, even those totally automated, can produce a lemon on any given day.
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Yep but when it tears something up and the product is not stood by then you switch to Limes, BTW, if you have something like this happen and you replace it with the same........
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10-13-2014, 12:46 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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What the Heck Happened to my Tire?
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Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
Yep but when it tears something up and the product is not stood by then you switch to Limes, BTW, if you have something like this happen and you replace it with the same........
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With that logic we would run out of some products very soon. My philosophy is once bitten, twice shy. I only give up on things that continually fail me which is why I no longer own anything GM. I switched to limes. Lol!
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Alan
2001 HR Scepter 38PBD 330 Cummins
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10-13-2014, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Wilson
I think Pandora's box is open on tires that is very similar to the ' I'll never have another Chevy or Ford or Dodge because that brand failed me. (Pick one) There are fleet companies that use nothing but GY or Michelin or whatever gives them the lowest cost per mile. Business associate I know purchased a large quantity of Case IH tractors and equipment. One tractor had serious problems three times in less than two months. The other 31 were just fine. If one person had received that one tractor he would have called it junk and bought green. Point is all things built by imperfect humans are imperfect.
Thanks,
Alan
2001 HR Scepter 38PBD 330 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
Any company, even those totally automated, can produce a lemon on any given day.
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..That makes it "OK"..No That's an Excuse!
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