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04-24-2015, 06:44 PM
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Some dps drive better then gassers but when parked they are pretty much identical inside .
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When's the last time you saw a hydronic heating system on a gas MH?
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04-24-2015, 07:01 PM
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I have yet to ride in a gas motorhome that's remotely as nice riding as my DP. Or as quiet when going up and down long grades.
For a point on ride, I'll attach a picture of how we travel (this was on the way home, so especially messy, but everything sat like this for 200 miles of nowhere-near-perfect roads).
Steve
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04-24-2015, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by docj
When's the last time you saw a hydronic heating system on a gas MH?
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Heat is heat no matter what system delivers it. Like I said gassers are just as well equipped as dps when they are being lived in. You can list all the options until you are blue and the gasser will match up.
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04-24-2015, 10:29 PM
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I guess every conversation here has to turn into the never ending "DP's are better" parade of comments, no matter how clear the OP makes it that the question they were asking wasn't about that.
Thanks to those who answered the question I actually asked. As to the rest, one of the things that scares me most about buying a DP is it seems to turn people's opinions into myopic self congratulations. I'd hate to catch that. I'm glad you guys like your rig, but nothing in this world is the right choice for everyone.
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04-24-2015, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by brobox
Drive one of each, a diesel and a gasser. It's all in the ride. How much is that ride worth? To me, it's priceless. JMO and I have owned both.
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Brobox nailed it. You cannot get the answer to your question just by looking at the cost side of the ledger. You have to consider the benefits, and to understand that you have to drive the gasser and the DP and compare the experience. I was all set to buy a gas coach, but the day I drove my first DP was the last time I ever considered a gas model. The difference has to be experienced to be understood.
Based on that experience, I would rather own a 10 year old DP than a brand new gas model.
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04-24-2015, 11:06 PM
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Raining Star, as a professional driver with "twenty years and several hundreds of thousands of miles" under your belt, I'm a bit confused why you would need to ask your question here. You state the DP models you're looking at are on a Freightliner chassis, one you are very familiar with, yet question the cost between OTR chassis & components compared to MDT type components. While not a professional driver, it's obvious to me when I drive one of our OTR trucks that the suspension, power, transmission, rear ends, and brakes are far superior to a MDT unit and by design, more costly.
As you have discovered with your shopping many, if not most, DP chassis' are built around OTR components. It would seem you have found the answer to your original question. Only you can decide which chassis is right for your application. Good luck with your decision.
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04-25-2015, 06:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monacoach
Heat is heat no matter what system delivers it. Like I said gassers are just as well equipped as dps when they are being lived in. You can list all the options until you are blue and the gasser will match up.
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With all due respect, you obviously have never had a MH with hydronic heat compared to having a propane furnace. Yes, both do keep you warm, but the well-distributed, quiet heat produced with the multiple small fans in a hydronic system is "priceless." Yes, both do the job but luxury items are nice to have when you can get them.
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04-25-2015, 07:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by docj
With all due respect, you obviously have never had a MH with hydronic heat compared to having a propane furnace. Yes, both do keep you warm, but the well-distributed, quiet heat produced with the multiple small fans in a hydronic system is "priceless." Yes, both do the job but luxury items are nice to have when you can get them.
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aquahot in its self is enough for me, endless hot water and hot water heat, when compared to 6 or 10 gallon hot water heater and one or two propane furnaces, there is no comparison other than they get the job done, add in the ride, the brakes, the power, typically the size, towing capacity, handling, there really is no comparison, and that same applies to the difference between my entry level ambassador with 5.9, 5 speed Allison and my current dynasty with 8.9, 6 speed and tag axle, now the ambassador out performed my gas bounder, handled better, rode better, had better power but they both had furnaces, propane hot water heaters,
entry level interiors, slightly better in the DP, appliances were identical.
Moxy
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04-25-2015, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Thunderfoot
Raining Star, as a professional driver with "twenty years and several hundreds of thousands of miles" under your belt, I'm a bit confused why you would need to ask your question here.
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I think it's safe to assume that this is another thread seeking validation for having chosen a gas coach over a diesel pusher under the guise of "you don't get anything for the extra cost and money of a diesel, a gas coach is just as good and less expensive."
Steve
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04-25-2015, 08:38 AM
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The simple line is this...
You get what you pay for.
The wife adds...
You pay for what you get...
That applies to times when you fail to do your homework.
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04-25-2015, 09:12 AM
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Why are DP's more expensive?
I think several comments have done a nice job of saying why DP's are more expensive . It's each individual to decide if those things make it worth the extra cost . Clearly, for many it is . For some , not so much .
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04-25-2015, 02:36 PM
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Most Dp's are made to a higher standard, its up to the buyer to decide if that standard is what they really want and are willing to spend the money to get it. There will always be those willing to pay the price and others who won't. I personally think you'd have to be insane to pay that kind of money, I don't need to go 85 over a hill or tow a 10,000 pound load. Just as there will be others who think I'm insane for cruising around in my $30k coach happy as a clam.
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04-25-2015, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by docj
With all due respect, you obviously have never had a MH with hydronic heat compared to having a propane furnace. Yes, both do keep you warm, but the well-distributed, quiet heat produced with the multiple small fans in a hydronic system is "priceless." Yes, both do the job but luxury items are nice to have when you can get them.
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What else do you have over the gasser when parked besides quiet heat? The cost difference between the two is mainly the chassiss which im saying doesnt come into play when parked.
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04-25-2015, 03:44 PM
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I know there would be some roosters getting their feathers ruffled over this topic.😡
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