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10-27-2009, 07:40 AM
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I just bought a 1988 pace arrow 34' motor home and found out there are 2 windows installed upside down. The drain slits (holes) are on the top of the frame. I found this because after I got it home it has now decided to rain and tada the window frames fill up and water runs down the inside wall. My question is, would it be easier to drill holes on the bottom of the frame or remove the windows and reinstall them correctly? Never have had the experience in removing a window in one of these.
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10-27-2009, 07:46 AM
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The outermost glass should be installed toward the front of the MH or you will get water penetration while driving in the rain. If that is the case then drill 2 new drip holes. If not, remove window and turn over.
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10-27-2009, 07:55 AM
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As someone else said, the sliding glass should pull back from the direction of the windshield other wise water can come in between the panes as you drive. I think there is a seal between the sliding panes. Look at the size of the drain holes at the top and put new drain holes at the bottom. The drain holes are only in the outside window frame. Put in enough drain holes that the water does not puddle in the frame.
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10-27-2009, 07:58 AM
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Interesting, George's reply shows that the windows were installed correctly, but the window manufacturer had the frame upside down. The only effect of that is to place the weep hole at the top, which is easily fixed.
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10-27-2009, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buck62
As someone else said, the sliding glass should pull back from the direction of the windshield other wise water can come in between the panes as you drive. I think there is a seal between the sliding panes. Look at the size of the drain holes at the top and put new drain holes at the bottom. The drain holes are only in the outside window frame. Put in enough drain holes that the water does not puddle in the frame.
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WOW, Thanks George Z and buck62 for the quick response. Now another fork in the road you guys brought light too. I can see how the rain would be driven into the windows while driving because now that they are upside down the forward window pain is in and the rear is out to catch the rain.....I think I might have to flip them around. Any tips on removing them?
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10-27-2009, 08:59 AM
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Use a plastic putty knife to pry window from alum. shell after removing all interior screws. Remove all old caulking and replace with roll putty. Do not over tighten screws when reinstalling as it will tend to dimple outer frame. Try to keep putty warm before installation and remove excess with putty knife.
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10-27-2009, 09:41 AM
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Before removing the windows be sure that when you reinstall them the fixed glass will be forward and the slider back.I think i would remove the slider to make sure I don't hit it when I drill some drain holes in the bottom and leave them in unless they now face the wrong way.
BOB
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10-27-2009, 10:28 AM
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Thanks everyone for your help on this. Like I said I am new to the MH world and of course bought a used one so lots to fix!
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10-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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Windows upside down is actually " Windows L"
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10-28-2009, 08:17 PM
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It's hard to believe these windows have been this way since 1988. It has rained most places in the last 21 years.  Looks like someone would've noticed. Is there an equal sized window on the other side of the rig?
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10-29-2009, 05:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired and Happy
It's hard to believe these windows have been this way since 1988. It has rained most places in the last 21 years.  Looks like someone would've noticed. Is there an equal sized window on the other side of the rig?
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I bought this used and the previous owner must have removed the windows and forgot to share this information with me. The other side has a bigger window that is also upside down. There also was an issue with the battery cabling which I have since fixed. They had a dead battery in the main position and wired series so when you used the aux to start it would give the extra boost to start, but when I purchased a new battery I Unfortunately blew the radio and then discovered there was 24v to to main battery circuit because the positive from the aux battery was connected to the ground of the main battery. Luckily the cables have been labeled with letters and are still intact. I am sure I will find more but so far everything else seems to be working fine.
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10-29-2009, 10:31 AM
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If it is just the drain holes at the top instead of the bottom......
Why not drill new holes?
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10-29-2009, 05:54 PM
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That is what I was asking originally. However a few people brought up some really good points that if I was driving down the road in a rain storm and the windows are in upside down the rain would be able to blow through. Normal sitting still probably wouldn't matter and I could just let them alone and drill holes in the bottom.
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10-29-2009, 06:44 PM
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Plug the Top Holes Tape.. JB Weld .. whatever! Drill new drains (Slits) at the bottom! Likely the Original windows were broken and the replacements were ordered wrongly!
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