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Old 01-21-2010, 07:13 AM   #15
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Lets see if Stillwater,or any one else comes back with any more info George.Kinda makes me mad though George,seeing it listed as towable in the magazine,I checked it out in the owners manual of the '09 model,and that said it was towable 4-down without modifications! Of course the new manuals have been changed.Hopefully we can get some fresh info.
Whaler, are you still not going to use your wife's Escape as a toad. I have been looking around the net and am not seeing to much new on the transmission problem. We are still looking for one, but not aggressively.

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Old 01-21-2010, 03:38 PM   #16
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How's the Escape Transmission doing now?

We are in the middle of buying a 2009 Ford Escape, 4wheel drive, V6 and while searching info about tow bracket, read, to our horror, about the transmission problems. Towing flat is why we were buying it.

Anyway, this is the only site I've found where anyone has said they were towing flat just fine, as long as transmission fluid level is kept low.

After reading the TSB (thanks for posting that BeeJay!), we are uncertain if you would have to add fluid when you get to a destination and want to drive the vehicle, instead of towing??? That would be a real bother!

Are you able to tow for 6 hours, as manual says, or do you stop every few hundred miles???

Any help clarifying would be great.
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Old 01-21-2010, 04:06 PM   #17
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We are in the middle of buying a 2009 Ford Escape, 4wheel drive, V6 and while searching info about tow bracket, read, to our horror, about the transmission problems. Towing flat is why we were buying it.

Anyway, this is the only site I've found where anyone has said they were towing flat just fine, as long as transmission fluid level is kept low.

After reading the TSB (thanks for posting that BeeJay!), we are uncertain if you would have to add fluid when you get to a destination and want to drive the vehicle, instead of towing??? That would be a real bother!

Are you able to tow for 6 hours, as manual says, or do you stop every few hundred miles???

Any help clarifying would be great.
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K&C. I have been told by local Ford service center that you do not have to add fluid to drive the Escape. He also said to cover any warranty issues have an authorized Ford service center lower the fluid level following the TSB. When ever you have it in for servive you must make sure no one tops off the trans fluid as then you would have to remove it. Towing , I was told 6 hours @ 65 mph. then you need to stop and run through the gears to circulate fhuid again.. I hope this helps. We are looking for a new Escape for DW daily driver and to use as a toad.

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Old 01-21-2010, 08:20 PM   #18
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There have been a few success stories towing the 2009-10 Escape 4 down.
I have towed mine 2000 miles with no problem and very low trans temps. I used a cheap heat gun to check temps every time we stopped about the highest temp while towing was 140 degrees, well under normal operating temps. I know of another Escape towed from Pennsylvania to Florida with no issues and another person who has towed 10,000 miles plus driven for 6000 with success. I never drive for 6 hours it's more like a couple of hours. I then run the engine and go through the procedure. I also don't travel at 65 miles an hour I usually just cruise along at 55-60 and match whatever the trucks are doing. It sure shows up in the fuel usage as well.
Once the oil is lowered it is not necessary to add oil. I had mine lowered by the dealer so I would have a record of being done. One word of caution if you don't get anything else out of my post please heed this. Do not trust the dealer to lower the oil to the proper level. It is difficult to get it just right and takes several attempts to get it right, the transmission needs to be at operating temp and takes time the dealer won't take to do properly. Mine is at the lowest possible level and still be within Ford's parameters. To be honest the dealers don't really care if you blow your trans. They haven't taken the problem seriously and have a cavalier attitude that if it blows up they'll just change it under warranty. I also put a tag on my dipstick indicating "do not add oil" I also stood by and watched when they changed my oil to ensure they didn't add any.
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:05 AM   #19
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There have been a few success stories towing the 2009-10 Escape 4 down.
I have towed mine 2000 miles with no problem and very low trans temps. .
Thanks Lyle, this instills much more confidence in our impending purchase of an Escape for our toad and wife's daily driver.

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Old 04-12-2010, 12:29 PM   #20
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It's always something. I have been debating if I should consolidate my focus tow and the matrix daily driver with one vehicle.
I was looking at CRVs and then I realized the escape had a better ground clearance for a small suv. I felt I was all set and then I found this thread lol You can't win sometimes.

I am going to go look at the CRV today. I was thinking if I did like the escape that much better, I might be able to put my old remco transmission pump on the escape that I used with the old escort toad.
It looks like the new 2011 haven't changed as far as tranny and engine, just the exterior.
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ctcamper,

I bought a 2010 escape V-6 4 wheel drive late April and had the Ford dealer adjust the tranny fluid level but double checked it later and took it back to have it done again per the bulletin. Also, told them that I was very concerned about all the posts about transmission and they were able to check with Ford about the new baffle that is now available in transmissions with a build date of Feb 8th 2010 or later. I just made it by 10 days! So, now we are towing and have had no problem but have very few miles yet towing.
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I bought a 2010 Escape in march and absolutely plan on towing it in the future. Bought a Roadmaster baseplate which I haven't mounted yet and plan on installing the SMI system for brakes. I have no qualms about towing in spite of the reported problems with transmissions. I had the trans fluid adjusted per the TSB and usually only travel 200-300 miles/day @ 60 mph so not particularly worried.

Looked at the CRV but pricing got in the way.
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The service bulletin says to adjust, I believe, the fluid level. Lots of people on the RV Forum Good Sam have writen about this. I doubled checked my dealer when they "adjusted" the fluid and found they had added not reduced. The wording in the bulletin is ambiguous, so you need to be sure to check it.
We towed our 2010 Escape about 5,000 miles before the new procedure. We did burn our trans fluid a little and paid to have it changed. Otherwise, the trans is working ok. Now we follow the new procedure and stop more often and run the engine for 5 minutes or more and put it through all the gears. Thinking now though about buying the extended warranty cause so many people have had trans failures. Some people actaully stop every 100 miles or so and check the temp of the fluid.
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Like others who have had the experience of burning up a transmission, I finally got up the nerve to give it another try. I took Stilwaters advice and purchased a cheap digital temp gun to monitor the case heat as I traveled. I finished a trip from Miami, FL to Texas Hill Country last month with success and no failure. I had the fluid checked by dealer to assure warranty coverage and started out. I made my first stop to check case at about 100 miles. Case was really hot, around 190 or better with the gun. I ran engine and temp dropped to around 150. I then started stopping every 80 mile or so and never got a reading over 160 again. After running each time the temp would fall to around 145 /150. I set the coach cruise on 58 and never go over 62 mph. The trip was just under 1500 miles and all was well when we arrived. It was a lot of trouble to make those stops, but peace of mind was worth it. I also rested the tires from very hot roads at the same time. I found a secondary use for the gun, checking the tire temps each stop. It was interesting that my inside rears always ran about 10% higher than the other tires. Ok... that's my report. Followed all the new rules with extra caution and the Escape made it fine.
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