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Old 04-12-2011, 11:53 PM   #1
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So we recently bought a new Explorer Limited 4WD. It can be flat towed and we plan on installing the Blue Ox baseplate, but in the owners manual it says not to exceed 65mph. Why is this? Is it okay to exceed 65? Because that might be a problem. Also I have a question about the push-button start. Can we tow this thing without the ignition being on? Im sick of having to jump the battery every trip. It doesnt seem to have a steering wheel lock.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:06 AM   #2
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Voleurz, welcome to iRV2.

Our Saturn Vue has a 65 mph speed limit for towing. These limits are sometimes imposed because the manufacturer is afraid the towed vehicle may become unstable at higher speeds and sometimes because transmission damage may occur if towed at higher speeds for extended periods. I occasionally exceed 65 mph with our Vue such as when passing or when descending a hill, but I normally drive 62-64 mph on the interstate.

As far as leaving your ignition switch off, check the owners manual. There should be a section called "Recreational Towing" or something similar that should give full instructions for towing. If the switch has to be on and the battery goes dead, there may be a fuse that you're supposed to pull. If not, you may need something like the Toad-Charge.
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So we recently bought a new Explorer Limited 4WD. It can be flat towed and we plan on installing the Blue Ox baseplate, but in the owners manual it says not to exceed 65mph. Why is this? Is it okay to exceed 65? Because that might be a problem. Also I have a question about the push-button start. Can we tow this thing without the ignition being on? Im sick of having to jump the battery every trip. It doesnt seem to have a steering wheel lock.

65 is the limit that they test the thermal stability for towing. IE you might get away with towing a bit faster, but Ford wants no responsibility for it. There are few places that towing faster than 65 is legal anyway. You are on your own either way.

Your car should be in accessories mode, not ignition on. For the push button start, accessories mode is activated by pressing the start button WITHOUT your foot on the brake pedal. The accessory power will shut down in about 30 minutes but the vehicle security system will not activate. All of this and other requirements are covered in your owners manual under 'Recreational Towing'. Please take the time to read it.

You should not have a dead battery from this. Now, if you are using a brake buddy or other braking system that uses power from the Explorer, it will need a charge controller and 12v power from the RV. Vally Towing and Brake Buddy both sell toad charge controllers for under $25.

The newer series Fords with pushbutton start do not have steering wheel locks.

Please fire back if you have other questions on towing the Explorer. Someone here will help.
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...but in the owners manual it says not to exceed 65mph. Why is this? Is it okay to exceed 65? Because that might be a problem....
Seeing that this is your first post, let me welcome you to iRV2. We're glad to have you with us.

With no disrespect intended, just how fast do you want to tow that Explorer if holding it down to 65 MPH is a problem?

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As far as the battery drain, my friend towed a 2010 Ford Fusion and the battery would go dead in a matter of a few hours and I won't even get into the transmission failures. He had so many problems with the car that Ford got him out of it for another Fusion with less than 4000 miles and three transmissions later. He had to agree to dolly tow rather than 4 down. This probably has no relationship to the Explorer but then again it may.

I'm like Rusty, just how fast do you want/need to drive?
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I'm not towing it... my Dad is. Im 17 but i'm the only person in the family that knows anything about cars. We have a 2006 Fleetwood Discovery. We used to tow an '08 Sport Trac with the neutral tow kit installed. It went through one transfer case because it wasn't disconnecting properly. and the key has to be in the on position, and I don't know what drains the battery but its nearly always flat when we arrive.
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As far as the battery drain, my friend towed a 2010 Ford Fusion and the battery would go dead in a matter of a few hours and I won't even get into the transmission failures. He had so many problems with the car that Ford got him out of it for another Fusion with less than 4000 miles and three transmissions later. He had to agree to dolly tow rather than 4 down. This probably has no relationship to the Explorer but then again it may.

I'm like Rusty, just how fast do you want/need to drive?
Well we live in Canada and the speed limit on the freeways here is 110. Which is somewhere around 70. Im just making sure that the transmisison is not going to explode if we hit 66...
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Well we live in Canada and the speed limit on the freeways here is 110. Which is somewhere around 70. Im just making sure that the transmisison is not going to explode if we hit 66...

Best check your speed limits again. Limits for trucks and vehicles towing are usually lower.
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I have an older Explorer and had problems with battery going dead. It was reccomended to me to use a small solar charger that plugged into the cars cigar lighter and would recharge the Toads battery. Usually worked but one trip the sun never shinned and it drained the battery. I stopped at a trailer shop and they reccomended that I install a small trickle charger that is normally in the battery box of a small trailer and keeps the tiny battery that is used in it's system charged. That was hard wired to the battery and to the hot wire that plugs into the coach. I have had no trouble since.
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65 is the limit that they test the thermal stability for towing. IE you might get away with towing a bit faster, but Ford wants no responsibility for it. There are few places that towing faster than 65 is legal anyway. You are on your own either way.

Your car should be in accessories mode, not ignition on. For the push button start, accessories mode is activated by pressing the start button WITHOUT your foot on the brake pedal. The accessory power will shut down in about 30 minutes but the vehicle security system will not activate. All of this and other requirements are covered in your owners manual under 'Recreational Towing'. Please take the time to read it.

You should not have a dead battery from this. Now, if you are using a brake buddy or other braking system that uses power from the Explorer, it will need a charge controller and 12v power from the RV. Vally Towing and Brake Buddy both sell toad charge controllers for under $25.

The newer series Fords with pushbutton start do not have steering wheel locks.

Please fire back if you have other questions on towing the Explorer. Someone here will help.

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thank you for reading the book and putting it here, if his book is as huge as ours it takes a while to get through
our edge towed just fine at or near 65 as well


https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...n%20Towing.pdf

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...0You%20Tow.pdf


http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WOBEXP/~MUS~LEN/41/11expog3e.pdf

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WOBEXP/~MUS~LEN/41/11expog3e.pdf
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You do not have to drive the speed limit. That is posted as the MAXIMUM, provided road conditions allow the speed. we run 63 to 65 mph, even out in west texas where it is 75 or 80 MPH.
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