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Old 12-28-2013, 05:54 AM   #1
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4000 to 8000 lb towed weight

I know this has been beat to death so I have read a bunch of threads on this site as well as a bunch on google. No real answers found.
From your experience and or knowledge base what is your opinion on the fuel mileage loss if any between pulling a 4000 lb load VS a 8000lb load?

Basically trying to decide between an enclosed car hauler or an open.

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Max speed for us is 60mph unless down hill then we may let gravity take over for the climb up the other side.
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:03 AM   #2
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I think you'll find that your MH is not rated to tow more than 5000 lbs.
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I think you'll find that your MH is not rated to tow more than 5000 lbs.
This info is gained how? In other words, how do I confirm this?
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This info is gained how? In other words, how do I confirm this?
Your manual should state the capacity of your hitch. I'd be surprised if it is more than 5000 lbs.
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I would think the F53 chassis is only good to tow 5,000#. You can look at your GVW and GCVW to be sure, but I doubt if you can get near 8,000#.
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Talk to your dealer, read your manual or download the brochure from the Thor website. 5000 lbs is the usual hitch limit for a Ford gasser chassis like yours. Don't take our word for it, look it up.
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Look at your hitch? That SHOULD have started out life with a capacity plate on it somewhere. You could also have a look at your combined gross weight capacity?

Then, you might also want to crawl under the back of your coach and look at how Thor attached their rear frame rails to the Ford frame maybe 4 to 6 feet ahead of the rear bumper? Some are pretty solid there. Others can be downright scary? The point they join generally pretty obvious. Point being, Ford did not build or supply that part of the frame. Thor did.....
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I'd also be surprised if you can tow more than 5000lbs. Either way, you'll have to take the combined weight of the trailer and car when considering what you can tow. Also an enclosed trailer is going to have more wind resistance than an open trailer. Only thing I can tell you for sure is that having a toad along with you when rving is much better than being without.
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2014 Hurricane Motorhomes: Class A RV by Thor Motor Coach
Select the 34j and it shows- Ford chassis GVWR of 22,000 and a Combined (GCWR) of 26000#

If you go to Compare Floorplan specs, the standard hitch is rated at 5000 lbs. 2014 Hurricane Motorhomes: Class A RV by Thor Motor Coach
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I found this on this forum a while back, here it is again:

The tow rating is the lower of:

1. GCWR minus tow vehicle's actual weight.

2. Hitch capacity.

3. Coach tow rating.

4. Chassis maker's tow rating.
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Thanks to all. I have been out all day buying stuff for the coach and working on it. I did find the info to the left of the driver under the window. We do have an aluminum trailer with plywood decking that only weighs 1000lbs. It's 8.5' x 22' rectangle with a 2' V to give us a total of 24' of length. It has double 2200lb torsion axles now so I have decided to put on new 3500lb axles and reinforce the plywood decking with more structural aluminum so we can use as a car hauler. I will also have to make some custom ramps but I figure I will have less than $2k in it and it will be super lite and haul any combination of toys we would need on any given trip.
Thanks again for your help.

Now, let's just say I could haul that much weight, do you feel there would be a noticeable fuel mileage loss?
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Thanks to all. I have been out all day buying stuff for the coach and working on it. I did find the info to the left of the driver under the window. We do have an aluminum trailer with plywood decking that only weighs 1000lbs. It's 8.5' x 22' rectangle with a 2' V to give us a total of 24' of length. It has double 2200lb torsion axles now so I have decided to put on new 3500lb axles and reinforce the plywood decking with more structural aluminum so we can use as a car hauler. I will also have to make some custom ramps but I figure I will have less than $2k in it and it will be super lite and haul any combination of toys we would need on any given trip.
Thanks again for your help.

Now, let's just say I could haul that much weight, do you feel there would be a noticeable fuel mileage loss?


You don't seem to get it,,,,
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Assuming you're within hitch/coach rating limitations, mileage pulling a trailer vs. not? I'm pretty sure you're going to notice a difference. Probably a mile to the gallon, maybe a little more?

What a toad can add to your traveling experience is worth that, easily.
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You don't seem to get it,,,,
What don't I get? I said that I was going with a very light trailer of of 1000lbs. I figure after I modify it for strength it will be around 1200 max. I then said it would haul any combo of toys we would need for any of our trips which would be our 3000 lb car and 300lb golf cart for a total of 4500lbs or it would be hauling our atv and golf cart and scooters which is less than 3000lbs.
The last thing was merely a hypothetical to see who all felt that 4000 pounds would effect the mpg of a big rv with very little wind drag.
I'm sorry if i missed something, can you please explain so I don't mess up
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