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Old 05-06-2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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4WD auto that may be towed 4-down without any modifications.

Jeep appears to be the only choice, and their premium 9-speed transmission is only available in their top-of-the-line ($40,000+) models. Are there other choices? I will not purchase anything that requires any modifications.
Our present 1997 Jeep is getting old and time for a replacement.
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Jeep appears to be the only choice, and their premium 9-speed transmission is only available in their top-of-the-line ($40,000+) models. Are there other choices? I will not purchase anything that requires any modifications.
Our present 1997 Jeep is getting old and time for a replacement.
My father in Law tows the Chevy Avalanche
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I'm not sure what you mean by "no modifications", but there are many vehicles of different makes that are 4wd, automatic, and flat towable with only the addition of a mounting base plate to attach your tow bar to, a brake system, and a light system. Even your Jeep requires that.
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The Cherokee (not Grand Cherokee) with the towable transmission (also a 9 speed) has an MSRP of about $31,000, so you should be able to get it for under $30,000. A base model Wrangler would be under $25,000. A Wrangler Unlimited (4 door) would be a couple grand more.
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If you can make do with AWD vs 4WD, there are many more choices.
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There are plenty of other 4wd vehicles that can be towed. Here is a link:

Dinghy Towing | Family Motor Coach Association

This is a better link:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...66111022,d.cGU

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Many or most of GM 4WD can be towed 4 down with no modifications.
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I didn't get if it has to be brand new, but the Hummer H3 (produced throguh 2010) is a full time 4WD and can be flat towed without any modifications.
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A 4WD is a requirement for DW. We live in hill country and the roads to our house require 4WD when it snows or ices. We had to wait 2 weeks in Dothan, AL for the weather to clear enough to get the MH, home to its garage this spring. Yes, I know, we came home a month too early this year.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "no modifications", but there are many vehicles of different makes that are 4wd, automatic, and flat towable with only the addition of a mounting base plate to attach your tow bar to, a brake system, and a light system. Even your Jeep requires that.
Thanks for adding, I didn't say everything I was thinking. From reading the FMCA towing guide, apparently Jeep and some GM 4WD models are our choices. By modifications, I mean driveline, remco pump, start every x hours and run engine 5 minutes, pull fuses, distance per day, etc. All but about 6,000 miles on DW's Jeep(Jeep towing has no limitations) are driven miles, perhaps it will withstand towing for 30/40,000 more. DW wants a new Jeep, but with the problems their new 9-speed tranny was having,we'll wait. She has to have a vehicle dress/skirt friendly too.

StevieG, I have a doctor friend driving a H3, he said it gets terrible mileage, and wishes he'd never bought one. When I told him our Jeep gets 18 highway/13 city, he said he gets a smig over half that.

Just found out my nephew is taking me to a gigantic vehicle auction in early June. DW wants he and I to pick out a 2012 or 2013 Jeep GC 4WD automatic, that may be flat-towed.

Thanks for your advice and links everyone!
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I have a Jeep GC and it works fine, another goos TOAD is the Ford Edge.

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DW wants a new Jeep, but with the problems their new 9-speed tranny was having,we'll wait.
FWIW, that article was written right about the time the new Cherokee was being introduced, and the transmission programming issues held up the release of the vehicles. It's been over six months since they were released, and I have heard of very few issues since then. You should probably check out a Cherokee specific forum (like KL Cherokee 2014 & up - JeepForum.com), but I wouldn't rule out a new Cherokee because of that.

And that transmission is only on the Cherokee. The Grand Cherokee uses different 8 speed transmissions (for 2014), and the one in the Hemi gets really good reviews. I've driven ours about 20 miles so far (picked it up yesterday), and it's really nice.
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StevieG, I have a doctor friend driving a H3, he said it gets terrible mileage, and wishes he'd never bought one. When I told him our Jeep gets 18 highway/13 city, he said he gets a smig over half that.
I don't know which engine your friend has, but I have the base model. There is a big block version (The Alpha) that loves gas and I would not recommend unless you need an 8 cylinder. The base model is a 3.7L 5 cylinder that gets on average 18 mpg, or about the same as the Jeep... I know because I've owned four.

What I like about the H3 over the Jeep, is that it has a better fit and finish, no frame or rocker panel rust like the Jeep, while still having some of the best off road capabilities. It also has the easiest to install and cheapest baseplate of them all... And as you wanted, a very tow friendly transmission.
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I tow my 2013 Ram 1500 with no mods other than the baseplates and aux brake.
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