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Old 09-22-2016, 04:03 PM   #15
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Ya, mine came with cables for the baseplate - very awkward for a Jeep off road so I don't use them. the bolts are easy to check on mine.

I parked next to a couple that said their baseplate on their new Chev pickup actually pulled the bolts through the holes because they had loosened. He had to repair it with large washers.
What brand base plate?
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What brand base plate?
Blue Ox - both mine and his
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Thanks Brad.
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I can't speak for other brands BUT Blue-Ox base-plates are to be installed with RED Loctite and bolts/nuts torqued to recommended specs.

Copied directly from a Blue-Ox Base-plate installation manual.

Be sure to use Loctite Red on all bolts before tightening. Tighten all bolts according to the torque chart provided.

Read pages 1 & 9 from my base-plate installation manual. Especially pay attention to the orange Waring on page 1. All of the needed information is there. People just need to stop cutting corners or skip important steps.

If those instructions are precisely followed you won't have any bolts or nuts coming loose on your base-plate.

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I don't recall saying he cut any corners, so lets jump down off our soapbox a little. You weren't there, you didn't install it, so don't make absolutes about whether his bolts would have loosened.
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I've installed five Blue Ox baseplates on various vehicles. I used red loctite on every one of them. On three of those vehicles, I had to remove the baseplates when I traded the vehicles. I can tell you that removing those bolts is not an easy task. The Loctite works, especially if the bolts are torqued to spec.
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I installed the Blue Ox baseplate on my F150 and carefully followed the instructions for torque, threadlock and safety cables. One of my fears is that the bolts will loosen over time, especially with the load the baseplate is towing (about 7k#). However, checking the torque, assuming the nuts move while checking, will require them to be removed or backed off in order to apply new threadlock... so I have never checked them. Perhaps it is worth it to periodically pull the bumper and take a look at things just to be sure.
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Thanks for the heads-up!
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We now have our car back with the repairs completed so I thought I'd post an update with some additional information.

The wrench who replaced the base plate commented that we were very luck considering that the bolts had worked loose as the party who installed the baseplate (Redlands Truck and RV Performance Center) did not attach the supplied safety straps. He said, if the bolts failed, the baseplate would have completely separated from our toad.

Needless to say, our new baseplate has new bolts with red Locktite applied and the new safety cables are attached as per the installation instructions.
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I installed the baseplate on our 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am the one that inspects the baseplate monthly. 30k on the baseplate and still tight. I did install the safety straps.
Its the responsibility of the owner to inspect the hardware.
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I installed the baseplate on our 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am the one that inspects the baseplate monthly. 30k on the baseplate and still tight. I did install the safety straps.
Its the responsibility of the owner to inspect the hardware.
Exactly, one reason I installed my baseplate and wiring myself was so I could inspect and fix any problems. I used Red Locktite and installed the supplied safety cables.

Ron...I would be contacting Redlands Truck, if for no other reason than to ensure they are aware they have a sloppy installer and to ensure no one else has a serious detachment on the road....glad you got it all sorted
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One year ago we where heading up the CA coast. Stopped in a rest stop just north of Santa Barbara. Did my walk around inspection and spotted a crack in the Blue Ox tow bar!
Ended up staying at a local campsite and drove down to LA and picked up a new Tow Bar.
Hate to think what would have happened if that towbar cracked thru!
Inspect, inspect, inspect!
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We now have our car back with the repairs completed so I thought I'd post an update with some additional information.

The wrench who replaced the base plate commented that we were very lucky considering that the bolts had worked loose as the party who installed the baseplate (Redlands Truck and RV Performance Center) did not attach the supplied safety straps. He said, if the bolts failed, the baseplate would have completely separated from our toad.

Needless to say, our new baseplate has new bolts with red Locktite applied and the new safety cables are attached as per the installation instructions.

Glad to hear that your new baseplate has been installed per the installation instructions. You should not have any more worries about the bolts working loose or the baseplate separating from your vehicle.


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I don't recall saying he cut any corners, so lets jump down off our soapbox a little. You weren't there, you didn't install it, so don't make absolutes about whether his bolts would have loosened.
I guess certain individuals should step down off of their "soapbox" until all of the important facts have been determined before posted snide remarks.
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In 2004 replaced our old Winnebago with a new Winn Vectra 40AD. Also got a new Toad, a 2004 PT Cruiser but because of our schedule had a trailer & hitch shop do the installation of the Blue Ox Avanta tow bar. Normally something I would do myself.
In 2016 and after some 60k miles while on a trip from Seattle to the FMCA rally in Perry while under hitching found movement in the Base plate. A visit to Camping World after the front bumper and grill were removed found only ONE bolt on each side were still in, and they weren't tight. After reading the installation instructions that came with the base plate and comparing with the online instructions for a new unit I found the current version has had two extra parts and bolts added to the kit. When I called Blue Ox they confirmed the change but could not OR would not tell me why. After talking to Camping World Mgr, and myself they agreed to send a replacement to C. W. at no charge including the installation charge. I ended up paying for the teardown & inspection.
Blue Ox after the reinstall denied payment for CW reinstall so I paid under protest. After a number of phone calls
B Ox did send me a check to cover cost of reinstall. Just another reason why I don't like have work done I can do myself. Then I know who & why I can blame. Was it lack of LOCTIGHT or the added bolts & parts that caused this, I don't know but Blue Ox must have felt some responsibility.
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