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Old 03-05-2017, 11:54 PM   #29
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Thanks for the heads up.

It so happens I'm hooking up my toad tomorrow for a trip and I'm gonna check my bolts for tightness based on your unfortunate, or fortunate, experience based on how you look at it.

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Old 03-06-2017, 07:42 AM   #30
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My Blue Ox baseplate was installed at the Blue Ox factory in Pender, NE., about 4 years ago. Do you suppose they did it proper by using Loctite Red?

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Old 03-06-2017, 08:06 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by swampdog View Post
I put lock tite on my bolts in 2008 just sold the car and removed base plate bolts were still tight , .so will use it on my new toad
Every installation video I've watched said to put red locktite on the bolt threads. There shouldn't be any backing off with that on the threads. Maybe this is a good time to go check our installations, especially if we paid to have someone else do it.
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Old 03-06-2017, 08:19 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by mchero View Post
One year ago we where heading up the CA coast. Stopped in a rest stop just north of Santa Barbara. Did my walk around inspection and spotted a crack in the Blue Ox tow bar!
Ended up staying at a local campsite and drove down to LA and picked up a new Tow Bar.
Hate to think what would have happened if that towbar cracked thru!
Inspect, inspect, inspect!

Do you have any more specifics?
  • Where was the crack?
  • Age of tow bar?
  • Aluminum or Steel?
  • Did you contact Blue Ox?
  • Any pictures?
More information may help someone else with a similar bar prevent a serious accident!
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:10 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by MO Fred View Post
My Blue Ox baseplate was installed at the Blue Ox factory in Pender, NE., about 4 years ago. Do you suppose they did it proper by using Loctite Red?
I would bet that it was installed correctly.
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:18 AM   #34
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Did they do the install using RedLoctite, did they torque properly, if you don't watch the installation or do it yourself you never know.
Every time I hooked/unhooked I would try to move the removal pins going into the base plate but all seemed to be tight.
I did notice two areas near the pins that seemed to be pushed out but blamed it on someone shoving the plastic bumper in at a parking lot. Without removing the bumper on a PT CRUISER there is no way to check if there is a problem.
The last Toad was a VW Rabbit also using a Blue Ox base plate and old style "A" frame towbar. I installed & after many miles never had a problem.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:33 PM   #35
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I installed the Blue Ox baseplate on my F150 and carefully followed the instructions for torque, threadlock and safety cables. One of my fears is that the bolts will loosen over time, especially with the load the baseplate is towing (about 7k#). However, checking the torque, assuming the nuts move while checking, will require them to be removed or backed off in order to apply new threadlock... so I have never checked them. Perhaps it is worth it to periodically pull the bumper and take a look at things just to be sure.

If the bolts are clean and primed when the Loctite is applied the nut wont move. If the loads involved move the bolt sideways in the hole causing the metal under the nut to wear you can retouque without backing off the nut and reapplying new Loctite. It will still work fine after the adjustment. You need to add the breakaway value to the torque spec but it wont be much difference.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:01 PM   #36
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All the Blue Ox base plates I have installed have safety cables that you thread around the frame rails "IF" the bolts should let loose. I always use red locktight on the threads as well.
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Stuff, or is that a four letter world 'stuff'(?), happens...

>Mistakes during installation
>Mistakes in manufacturing
>Rough roadways

Many items on our coaches require yearly inspections as part of the ownership experience. For now, I do many of these myself. But, I've also as times authorized an extra 1/2 - 1hr Shop Rate change for an experience tech to also look over my coaches chassis/suspension/hydraulic lines/wiring too.

On our toad, an 07 CRV, I get it up on my blocks yearly and inspect the baseplate, and the rest of the underneath too... About 3 years ago, after a year tag we put 21K on the coach, including a top to Alaska - I found one loosen bolt. (I removed it, wire brushed everything clean, and re-Locktite installed it.

Even then, after doing what I consider normal an prudent precautionary maintenance - we had a pin work loose in Oregon, and our CRV was held on by one arm and the safety cables. (Lucky, as a motorist flagged my attention to it quickly. The CRV was moving rapidly from side to side on the one arm at about 55MPH. We were also lucky that we could ease over and pull off and slowly stop, without the CRV impacting the coach. We lost the Sterling All Terrain arm on this one - and upgraded to the 10K Stirling when we replaced it.) So even with what I consider normal maintenance and diligence - that 'stuf' word will creep into your lives...

But IMO, it is sure worth doing the extra effort, and costs - for regular maintenance and inspection of many things related to RV'ing. Part of being as safe as you can be...

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