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Old 08-21-2012, 07:05 AM   #43
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Nah. Just getting to be a classic.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:28 AM   #44
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Opel....were those avail here in the US or was it just overseas that model was available?
The Opel was sold through Buick dealerships in the 70s. They were (and are, the brand still exists - owned by GM) German made and imported. They were well built and the Manta and the GT were fun to drive (the Kadet less so, only because it was intended to be less expensive, not as stylish and had a smaller engine).

The mechanics generally hated having to work on the GT as the engine was partially stuffed under the dash, but it was FUN to drive. 120mph capability, "out of the box" was rare, period, at that time, let alone in a car at it's price point.

Unfortunately, Buick killed the golden goose in the later 70s when it opted for a less expensive option and started importing Isuzu cars and re-badging those as Opel. Not a bad car for the money, and more to American standards as to trim and amenities (the "real" Opel was typical of German cars at the time, all 'go', not so much show) but it did not belong in a Buick showroom and the whole idea of a small car sold by Buick was dropped before the turn of that decade.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:35 AM   #45
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:33 PM   #46
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I sometimes tow my 1990 Porsche 944 S2 Cab. Usually not very far on a Demco SS 460 usually to my GTI.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:19 AM   #47
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As soon as the coach is back road-worthy I'll be towing either my daily-driver '78 Beetle Convertible, or (once it has an engine again) my 1970 VW Squareback.

Also considering making/buying a tandem dolly so we can take a car and one of my motorcycle, either a 2006 Triumph Bonneville, or a 1973 BMW R75/5.

If I go completely insane I might get a front-mount carrier to take the 1966 Honda CT200 Trail Bike.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:22 AM   #48
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a classic car HAS to be restored..............what a crock

what if your 1941 is all original and near mint...then its not classic by their definition?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:24 AM   #49
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Not old enought to fit most definitions of a classic, but I'm considering buying a trailer to tow it on.

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Old 09-28-2012, 07:10 PM   #50
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I saw these in South Dakota this week.
The Vet was in Salem and the MGB was in Custer.

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Old 09-29-2012, 07:44 AM   #51
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Just because a car is in the age span of Classic cars, it doesn't mean it's a classic. The CCCA has a specific list and, if it's not on the list, it's not a classic. Also, it doesn't have to be "restored", just be on the list.

"The Classic Car Club of America defines a Classic as a “Fine” or “Distinctive” automobile, American or foreign built, produced between 1925* and 1948. Generally, a Classic was high-priced when new and was built in limited quantities. Other factors, including engine displacement, custom coachwork and luxury accessories, such as power brakes, power clutch, and “one-shot” or automatic lubrication systems, help determine whether a car is considered to be a Classic."

Here's the CCCA list: Classic Car Club of America ? Approved Classics

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I learned a bit from the article myself. I didn't realize that classics were confined to specific years and that an antique could be newer than a classic. I had always assumed a classic was over 25 and an antique was over 35.
See... old dogs can learn new tricks!
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #52
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"Official" designations are all fine and good,

Try to convince the American public that the '64 1/2-'66 Mustang or '57 Chevy isn't a classic. Over time a term is defined by the accepted general public usage.
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Certainly not intended to start an argument but if it were me defining "Classic", it would include unique out of print cars 25 or more years old.
Example: 1970 AMX. Not as classic as a '55 to '57 Chevy Nomad, 64-1/2 to '70 Mustang, '58 Chevy Impala, etc. but certainly appealing to a much larger Buyer's base than many defined as "Classic".

Or any car that is now worth 10 or more times what it originally cost, like an all original 1970 'Cuda AAR 6-pack? Original cost was in the neighborhood of $3,200.00 and now fetches the price of $90,000.00 (or more?). A 1971 Hemi 'Cuda convertible anyone? That'll cost you up to $2 MILLION. How 'bout a 1972 Yenko 427 Chevelle SS?
These and many other cars are more in demand than a 1903 type 13B Delahaye and will cost more than an all original Model A.

Even my lo-mile 35th Anniversary 2002 Mercury Cougar V6 5-speed Sport, the last never-to-be-seen-again model made by a never-to-be-seen-again company, is still worth half as much today as it cost back then.

I could go on but there are far too many cars to count.
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I have been followed by these

Not 4 down but on a trailer.
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Well, talking about price. How about one of the 37 original Ferrari GTO's (the real ones, not Pontiacs). When a rare sale takes place, the price is around $35M (that's 35 million dollars).

The "Classic" term is used by the CCCA, but not copywrited, so as you say it is used for all sorts of cars. As long as a car is a good example of something, it can be admired. I have no great love for the older muscle cars, but can certainly appreciate a nice one - or a street rod, dune buggy, antique etc (not sure about low-riders...). The recently increased value of a lot of older cars is because some people can finally buy what they couldn't have in their youth, or can go back in time to when they first had a certain car.


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Certainly not intended to start an argument but if it were me defining "Classic", it would include unique out of print cars 25 or more years old.
Example: 1970 AMX. Not as classic as a '55 to '57 Chevy Nomad, 64-1/2 to '70 Mustang, '58 Chevy Impala, etc. but certainly appealing to a much larger Buyer's base than many defined as "Classic".

Or any car that is now worth 10 or more times what it originally cost, like an all original 1970 'Cuda AAR 6-pack? Original cost was in the neighborhood of $3,200.00 and now fetches the price of $90,000.00 (or more?). A 1971 Hemi 'Cuda convertible anyone? That'll cost you up to $2 MILLION. How 'bout a 1972 Yenko 427 Chevelle SS?
These and many other cars are more in demand than a 1903 type 13B Delahaye and will cost more than an all original Model A.

Even my lo-mile 35th Anniversary 2002 Mercury Cougar V6 5-speed Sport, the last never-to-be-seen-again model made by a never-to-be-seen-again company, is still worth half as much today as it cost back then.

I could go on but there are far too many cars to count.
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