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Old 12-02-2015, 12:59 AM   #1
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Auto Braking System in a Grand Vitara

I have a Brake Buddy unit that works from the coach, wirelessly to activate the brakes in the toad when the coach decelerates quickly. I have been told that the Grand Vitara is too light a vehicle to use this technology and it will cause the brakes to lock up. I'm looking for advise as I believe its better to have them and not need them as opposed to need them and not have them. Wondering on your thoughts about this. TIA
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:08 AM   #2
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Not sure who may have told you that, but I think it is hogwash. I towed two Grand Vitaras for a total of 60k miles and never had a problem with my "pedal pusher" type toad brake. A different brand than BB, but same operating principle.

Brake Buddy has an adjustable control that you tune for the weight of the vehicle and your preferences, i.e. the amount of braking you want applied.
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Gary, he claimed the unit is designed for much larger and heavier toads and will always cause over braking. I am going to do a test run pulling the toad up and over a couple of mountain passes that should test his hypothesis to the max as my son will be following watching for problems. We'll use our antiquated CBs to keep in contact if trouble develops back behind me that I can't see from the drivers seat.
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I had a Grand Vitara with a Brake Buddy and no problem. Brake Buddy is adjustable for weight. Seems like I had it set on 3.
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I had a Grand Vitara with a Brake Buddy and no problem. Brake Buddy is adjustable for weight. Seems like I had it set on 3.
Looks to be a good starting point for my trials.

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So only small people can drive Grand Vitaras? Big people would press too hard on the brake pedal?

I think your friend doesn't know what he is talking about. All braking systems are adjustable.

One of the things you can do is use an IR gun and after driving a few miles stop and shoot the brake rotors.

I do that every time I stop and the tires too. An overheated tire is an indication of low tire pressure.
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Just read the installation manual on line. Says that the pressure is adjustable for vehicles from 1,500 lbs to over 5,000 lbs.

Manuals are available on line.
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Gary, he claimed the unit is designed for much larger and heavier toads and will always cause over braking.
Well, we all have opinions. Mine is based on years of actual experience as well as extensive knowledge of toad braking products (I've owned three different ones) and towed cars for roughly 100k miles. You have to decide if your other advisor has any credibility or not. I say "not".
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When it quits playing NOAH in our neck of the woods I will go get the unit from the storage shed and research everything I can find about it online. I am starting to agree with Gary's assessment of my informant as people with experience are contradicting him here. Thanks for all your guidance and help.
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I had a Grand Vitara with a Brake Buddy system and it worked fine.
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Perhaps your informant is just out of date. Back in the day when this type of brake unit had mechanical inertia sensors (basically a pendulum), they sometimes overbraked (or underbraked). For the last dozen or so years they have used acellerometers that are much more reliable and accurate and eliminated that issue.

And some percentage of people don't seem to be able to follow instructions and adjust the gain & sensitivity well enough. Or re-adjust in case the setting gets changed accidentally.
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Thanks all. I now have the manual, I am checking all the included in my purchase items against the manual and will either buy new or reinvent anything missing from the list of materials required in the manual.
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