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Old 04-05-2014, 10:51 PM   #1
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Unhappy Bad toad day

Saw a fellow in distress this morning attempting to head out of the campground. Had a 2013 Nissan Altima towing on a dolly behind a 40 ft. Fleetwood Discovery. He had promptly peeled the entire lower liner out from under the front end while attempting to load the car on the dolly. Realizing he had a problem, he proceeded to attempt to back off the dolly, promptly wrapping the detached liner around the front wheels. What a mess. Went over to serif I could assist, he commented he had loaded/unloaded the car 15-20 times before with no problem. Best we could figure, the angle between dirt road/dolly/car nose was just wrong somehow, proceeded to dang near peel the entire nose off the car.

Lesson to learn from; towing four down is sooooo much easier/better. I've seen a few folk who dolly their toad, never could figure out why. Now I know I made the right decision to flat tow fate seeing this misfortune.

And for those who do dolly their toad; never assume because it worked 20 times before, it will be ok the 21st, and always have a spotter on hand when loading the toad up!
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:02 PM   #2
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:19 PM   #3
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:37 PM   #5
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We've done it both ways and they each have there or advantages or disadvantages depending how you look at it. We tow 4 down now. Sorry to read of his problems and hope they get it all stratightened out.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:39 PM   #6
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4 down today, but at first opportunity, moving to enclosed trailer. Tired of beating up the towed. It can be backed up, and can be a rolling garage of sorts.
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Dolly is a workable option for folks who swap off different toads, or for someone who absolutely wants a car that is not towable 4-down. However, many/most cars now are quite low n the front and do take some care in loading. DW had a Maxima back when we started rving that had a tow hook that would catch on the dolly and stop me cold if I hit the ramps just hard enough to compress the suspension just a little. I do much prefer 4-down.
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I had a tow dolly that came with our first MH. I used the dolly once or twice and said the heck with that! Gave it to my neighbor free. Bought a CRV and started towing with 4 wheels down and that is what I've done ever since. It's so much simpler.
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We've done it both ways and they each have there or advantages or disadvantages depending how you look at it. We tow 4 down now. Sorry to read of his problems and hope they get it all stratightened out.
X2 on this. We tow dollied a new VW bug for a short time......never again. 4 down only for this RV'r !!

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I now tow flat, but used a dolly for 25+ years. The dolly does have flexibility and should not be dismissed outright. As the family changed needs we often towed a variety of vehicles, even taking the old 12 passenger van on one trip (way overweight but it was a short straight flat trip). As for tow dolly stories...how about the time I let my 16 year old who had just earned his license put the car on the dolly. He hit it too hard and jumped the ramp. The car end up high center, front wheels of the ground, blocking the only access to the campground. Two towtrucks later all was fixed and no harm was done. My son was hysterical, and we didn't really understand why, until he explained we had said we would pull his license if he had an accident...We all agreed this didn't count.
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Towing a Late Model BMW 335 or M3

Just sold my tow dolly and looking to begin flat towing am looking to buy a late model BMW 3 series with a manual transmission. anyboby with any experience towing these? Can they be flat towed and where do I get a base plate
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Lucky for the world, owners can make a choice on everything from how to tow a car to what RV to buy.

In the situation described in the OP, I would address what the owner had done wrong...the first 20 load/unloads obviously were done correctly...what changed?

Dolly towing it great for many and offers options...like changing cars, using a car that will granade if flat-towed and rescuing a broke-down buddy.

And, a dolly can be easily made with brakes and a break-away system. Too many forego those essential systems to save some money.

For many, the choice is easy...and is not to flat tow
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Choices.

That's axactly how I feel about flat towing...

I tried four down for three years.
Using a Blue Ox base plate and braking system, I experienced horrible situations...
Many times the braking system activated itself on bumpy roads (false activation) costing damage to car's braking sytem and front tires and axles.
Blue Ox tried to fix this unit - unfortunately unsuccessful and finally I bought Demco SS 460 tow dolly.
What a relief, I drove with my dolly through many states towing my cars and never had a single issue with that set up.
I can't say enough about the high quality of Demco SS dolly - .
As of loading - unloading car, it's a piece of cake, (with the dolly attached to the RV) it takes me the same amount of time compared to hooking up the flat towing equipment.





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Lucky for the world, owners can make a choice on everything from how to tow a car to what RV to buy.

In the situation described in the OP, I would address what the owner had done wrong...the first 20 load/unloads obviously were done correctly...what changed?

Dolly towing it great for many and offers options...like changing cars, using a car that will granade if flat-towed and rescuing a broke-down buddy.

And, a dolly can be easily made with brakes and a break-away system. Too many forego those essential systems to save some money.

For many, the choice is easy...and is not to flat tow
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Lesson to learn from; towing four down is sooooo much easier/better. I've seen a few folk who dolly their toad, never could figure out why. Now I know I made the right decision to flat tow fate seeing this misfortune.!
Have dolly towed, Trailer towed and 4-down towed.

The first two were short term trips, like moving a disabled car from point where it was to where it needed to go.. But the moral of that is I know how much fun we had loading and securing on the dolly or trailer.

I also know how easy it is to pop a couple pins in the holes, hook up the safety and other cables and go.

Yup, 4-Down is the only way.
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