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Old 01-15-2015, 10:01 AM   #1
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Base Plate Installation

We plan to buy a 2015 Jeep Cherokee 4WD and use it as a toad. I'm trying to get an idea of where I can get the base plate installed in the Baltimore area. So far, I haven't found anyplace that sells and installs Blue Ox base plates. I would hate to think I have to take a road trip to PA just to get it installed. With the exception of removing the front facia from the Cherokee, I know I could get the job done, but I would feel better if someone else did it, and I could just verify that all the bolts are torqued properly. The wiring for the lights is something I can handle, once I make sure there's enough room for the diodes behind the tail light units.

My plan is to go with the Ready Brute Elite tow bar. I want to keep it as simple as possible for our first toad.

Does anyone know of a place that wiii install base plates?
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On many cars getting the plastic fascia on and off is more difficult than installing the baseplate. If you can't find an RV dealer who can do it, check with some auto body shops. They are expert at dealing with the plastic stuff and bolting the baseplate on is easy.


Or ask around at the dealer where you will buy the Jeep. Perhaps one of the body shop mechanics will do it on the side for cash.
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I wouldn't go with the Ready Brute Elite tow bar if it has the surge brake on the front. It puts too much stress on the RV hitch and the Toad. You need a proportional system like brake buddy. Winnebago says not to use them for that reason.
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I wouldn't go with the Ready Brute Elite tow bar if it has the surge brake on the front. It puts too much stress on the RV hitch and the Toad. You need a proportional system like brake buddy. Winnebago says not to use them for that reason.
I and many others on this forum use or have used Ready Brute Elite with excellent results. Can you please attach in this Thread the Winnebago written explanation saying not to use?
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Not sure on Blue Ox but when I ordered my roadmaster baseplate for a Honda CRV they gave very detailed instructions for removing and replacing the fascia on the car. You might see if you can find a installation manual online for the Blue Ox and see if they have same type of instructions.
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I just installed a Blue Ox BX2238 on our 2005 Honda CR-V without too much difficulty. I am somewhat at ease doing this work. My biggest challenge was drilling 13/32 holes through the original frame rail (holds the bunper) with a 1/2" power drill - just couldn't get the bit to bite! I used a 5/16 bit and then used a round file to enlarge the hole. BUT, I don't know if I cut the wires attached to the nut plate after installation. Since they stick out about a foot, intuitively I should cut them off. Need Advice in Annapolis, MD. Good luck to BPoland.
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Leo's RV said they will order and install baseplates. An off the cuff quote from them was $1200 depending on car. I ordered the baseplate from Amazon for $392.
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Leo's RV said they will order and install baseplates. An off the cuff quote from them was $1200 depending on car. I ordered the baseplate from Amazon for $392.
Assuming $400 for the baseplate, they are suggesting $800 labor, probably allowing 8 hours or so. That sounds a bit high. Just for kicks, I asked a trusted RV shop for a quote on Blue Ox base plate install on my Ford F150 and they said $450 for the base plate and another $400 labor. I got the base plate for $349 and installed it myself in about 3 hours.
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Sounds a little Crazy to me

If Winnebago is suggesting not to use a surge brake System that makes no sense why would they recommend not using it when it's the chassis underneath that would be the concern. Surge brakes have been used for ever on boat trailers (because electricity and water do not play well)with no problems.
I am a master technician and electrician,I am going with a Ready Brute system w/surge brakes for simplicty and less chance of failure!

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I wouldn't go with the Ready Brute Elite tow bar if it has the surge brake on the front. It puts too much stress on the RV hitch and the Toad. You need a proportional system like brake buddy. Winnebago says not to use them for that reason.
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If Winnebago is suggesting not to use a surge brake System that makes no sense why would they recommend not using it when it's the chassis underneath that would be the concern. Surge brakes have been used for ever on boat trailers (because electricity and water do not play well)with no problems.
I am a master technician and electrician,I am going with a Ready Brute system w/surge brakes for simplicty and less chance of failure!

I agree!
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We plan to buy a 2015 Jeep Cherokee 4WD and use it as a toad. I'm trying to get an idea of where I can get the base plate installed in the Baltimore area. So far, I haven't found anyplace that sells and installs Blue Ox base plates. I would hate to think I have to take a road trip to PA just to get it installed. With the exception of removing the front facia from the Cherokee, I know I could get the job done, but I would feel better if someone else did it, and I could just verify that all the bolts are torqued properly. The wiring for the lights is something I can handle, once I make sure there's enough room for the diodes behind the tail light units.

My plan is to go with the Ready Brute Elite tow bar. I want to keep it as simple as possible for our first toad.

Does anyone know of a place that wiii install base plates?
Bill, I had a local truck accessories shop install my Roadmaster baseplate, ReadyBrake cable assy., ReadyStop breakaway kit, and Roadmaster 154 lighting kit! They only charged me about $350 for the complete installation! You should be able to find several of those in your area!
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MY neighbor and I installed the baseplate on my Suzuki. Not difficult. Instructions were very specific. Local RV dealer wanted $700 labor for just the install. But he provided very helpful guidance when we decided to do it on our own.
The Blue OX instructions for the baseplate for your 2015 Jeep Cherokee are here:
http://www.blueox.com/Uploads/Docs/BX1135.pdf
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Just called a local place, Jim Donnies RV on Friday,for a quote. With them supplying Blue Ox base plate, 4 diode lighting harness,and brake light relay, the price came to $1,190 installed. He said they will be running a special for the RV show next week, consisting of all of the above, plus a Blue Ox tow bar - which ever on is rated for 6,500 lbs. all for the low price of $1,999. So it seems they get a true double tap. $ 900 for a tow bar I can get online for $725, and then 6 - 8 hours of labor. From the sound of it, Leo's won't be any cheaper. Think I will have them do the brake light relay, cause I don't feel like messing with it, and the baseplate. I'm looking at the Blue Ox Aventa LX tow bar, rated for 10,000 lbs. RV Upgrades has that one for $644. Then I still have to decide on braking. Front runners are IRV Brake 2, and SMI's Stay-in-play DUO.
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I installed a blue ox Avesta and bought a stay in play for the 2013 Kia Soul we bought to tow. Originally behind a Navion IQ but we just a got a Country Coach DP and still am using the stay in play. Love it. One switch, ready to roll, no fuses to mess with. I don't know why anyone would need an Air Force one air type, really. We used the tow setup for 5000 miles on the Navion and have about 4000 on the Country Coach so far. The only thing I will change is adding a battery charge line from the coach because we did once deplete the Kia battery on a long mountainous trip
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