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Old 05-06-2016, 10:36 PM   #1
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Blue Ox Patriot problem

My 1 year old BO Patriot system when accelerating or cruising has started to get an intermittent "tow bk active" light and it is in fact applying the brakes. I sent it to the factory for repair and on a short trip a couple of weeks ago I didn't even get 1 block and I noticed the drag and sure enough the lights on. When they returned the unit to me they included a new break away actuator and included a new cable. Today I installed the new actuator. Any other ideas out there that may be causing this?

I also have the dreaded dead battery problem with the Honda CRV but that's another issue. I'm just going to upgrade the battery to take care of that.
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Try towing without the break away switch. If it does not actuate the brakes, you will know Blue Ox did not get the problem fixed. Also, should have the brake setting on 5, that tends to be the norm. As far as the battery problem. I just put a marine deep cycle battery in one of those pastic black boxes from Walmart. I sit this battery on the passinger side floor board. Works great! I carry a charger with me to recharge the battery when I stop. Just put the battery in the back when using the car, or store in luggage compartments of motorhome. Good Luck.
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When you say without the breakaway switch do you mean don't plug it in? I could do that. I think the odds of actually having a breakaway are really high. Hopefully I may have already fixed it by replacing the breakaway switch.
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yes, hope the breakaway switch is the problem. Sounds like it to me.
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On my mh I have a power wire that goes thru the 7 pin connector to the battery on the toad. There is a diode and a fuse in line, it keeps the battery charged. Works great Really simple. Never a dead batt or lugging around an extra batt. You can buy them on line. I forget the exact name but look under accessories on towing webbsites.
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I use a cheap Peak 600amp jump start battery pack to power my Patorit and never worry about the toad battery. Rarely uses more than 25% of its charge in a day. Just plug into 115vac at night and its ready to go the next day. I bought mine on eBay for less than $40 including freight/tax.
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Make sure the breakaway is plugged in before you turn the unit on.
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yes, hope the breakaway switch is the problem. Sounds like it to me.
I changed the breakaway switch but have not tested it yet. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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On my mh I have a power wire that goes thru the 7 pin connector to the battery on the toad. There is a diode and a fuse in line, it keeps the battery charged. Works great Really simple. Never a dead batt or lugging around an extra batt. You can buy them on line. I forget the exact name but look under accessories on towing webbsites.
I have the same setup but Honda CRVs are known for having weak stock batteries. I have read that the fix is to upgrade to a Honda Oddesey battery
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I use a cheap Peak 600amp jump start battery pack to power my Patorit and never worry about the toad battery. Rarely uses more than 25% of its charge in a day. Just plug into 115vac at night and its ready to go the next day. I bought mine on eBay for less than $40 including freight/tax.
That's a great idea!! I just might try that. Thanks!!
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Make sure the breakaway is plugged in before you turn the unit on.
Will do. Thanks
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That's a great idea!! I just might try that. Thanks!!
My suggestion, Change the Battery. All others are Band Aids. The root problem is an undersized battery.

Also, have you talked to BlueOx about your braking issue? I have had mine for 5+ years and never had it brake by itself.
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My suggestion, Change the Battery. All others are Band Aids. The root problem is an undersized battery.

Also, have you talked to BlueOx about your braking issue? I have had mine for 5+ years and never had it brake by itself.
Yes I have spoken to BO more than a few times and they finally had me ship it to them to address the brake active issue. You may be right about changing the battery to a larger one. What battery did you go to? Its a perfectly good battery just not enough to power the patriot for hours. According to them they replaced the unit battery and a push rod. Looks to me to be a brand new one they sent me because it came in an as new original box and packing you would get and included the accessories you get when new. We head out for the summer in a couple of weeks so we'll see what happens. This thing worked fine new about a year ago then a couple of months later it started killing my toad battery and then the brake active problem started.
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Yes I have spoken to BO more than a few times and they finally had me ship it to them to address the brake active issue. You may be right about changing the battery to a larger one. What battery did you go to? Its a perfectly good battery just not enough to power the patriot for hours. According to them they replaced the unit battery and a push rod. Looks to me to be a brand new one they sent me because it came in an as new original box and packing you would get and included the accessories you get when new. We head out for the summer in a couple of weeks so we'll see what happens. This thing worked fine new about a year ago then a couple of months later it started killing my toad battery and then the brake active problem started.
I had a similar issue with my Patriot while enroute to Alaska. After a few calls to BlueOx, they determined the internal battery was shot and needed to be returned to them for repair. Since we were on the road, they finally made me a deal on a new one shipped, prepaid to our next stop. Then, I retuned the old one for a credit.
The new unit is a completely different animal in terms of performance and operation.
As for the battery, go to your Honda dealer and purchase the two part battery tray for the Honda Oddesy. See attached for the P/N's.
Then, purchase a group 24 battery with the highest CCA you can find. Mine is 850, compared to the OEM group 51 at about 400.
The combo of the new Patriot and new battery has added years on to my life.
Last trip, I left the ign in the on (in error of course) position which powers the daytime running lights etc etc. After five hours of towing, the car started up, no problem. Try that with the OEM battery..

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