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Old 03-22-2015, 08:16 AM   #15
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I have been considering the Patriot system for a while and had a question that isn't really answered in the literature.

Is it connected to the MH brake lights or braking system, or does it just use a built in surge sensor to apply brakes in the toad?

Thanks for any assistance.
The brake, turn and stop lights are activated on the toad by the motorhome's signals. That's why you have the toad wired to the rear trailer plug on the motorhome.

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Old 03-23-2015, 04:09 AM   #16
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Ghutch is correct. AND. The Patriot pushes the break and that activates the break lights on my CRV. Systems are independent

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Old 03-23-2015, 12:17 PM   #17
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The Patriot actuates the toad's brakes through a proportional inertial system. The sensitivity of the actuation is remotely adjustable from the RV. The remote indicator tells you when the brakes on the toad are being actuated, and allows you to adjust the sensitivity setting.
The lights in the toad are another matter. My installer refused to cut into the wiring harness for the toad stating concern for the sensitive electronics that it has. Instead he installed separately wired LED bulbs in the rear light housing that are wired up to the RV. Also as mentioned elsewhere here, when the Patriot pushes on the brake pedal, the normal stop lights for toad are actuated.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:32 PM   #18
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We just had the Invisibrake system installed in our 2014 CR-V. It is permanently mounted under the driver's seat so I never had to take it out or put it back in each time. I also had a switch installed to shut off the Nav. system while towing so it doesn't drain the battery. It was the same cost as the Patriot. I have a dash light in the MH that comes on if there is any issue with the brakes in the TOAD. Haven't had the chance to test it all out yet because we just finally got all this work done but am keeping my fingers crossed all goes well.

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Just traded the "Hit Me" Toyota RAV 4 Monday for a 2014 CRV. The RAV 4 has been rear ended 2 times in a 13 month period. It had to go and I am tired of towing with a dolly and am going 4 down. I am headed to CW tomorrow to check out systems and costs for total installation. I am also looking at the Invisibrake because there is nothing to install or remove when towing. Just sounds simple.
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I have owned both over the years. If I had to choose one of those again it would be the blue ox personally. I had no issues what so ever with it.

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