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Old 05-10-2013, 08:02 PM   #1
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Brake System for Toad

Just saw an ad indicating that a breaking system is required in 40 states. How many of you use an auxiliary break system on your Toad??
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We have a 38' HR Endeavor and a Cadillac CTS toad. We use a Brake Buddy which installs in the floor between the seat and the brake pedal. It only takes 5 minutes or less to set it up. An indicator light at the MH driver's seat tells you when it is activated during a hard braking situation, although I can't tell much of a difference in stopping distance at least not subjectively. Stands to reason that it will shorten your stopping distance in an emergency. I use it for two reasons...1. it might make the difference in an actual emergency stop and 2. it gives me a peace of mind especially in terms of liability. I have no idea if it is required by law, but yet another reason to use it for peace of mind. One other consideration... if your toad breaks away, the Brake Buddy activates automatically...this might just be the best reason to have one. Hope this helps, just my view on the issue.
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Yes it helps! Does a dealer need to install the system?
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I think you'll find that the VAST majority of MH owners use a supplemental braking system of some type on ther toad. For me I simply don't want a ton and a half of rolling inertia trying to keep me for stoping if I need to, law or no law.
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We just bought a MH. The towing system is on order, the M&G braking system is also on order.
This pdf from Workhorse explains why much better than I ever could.
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Ever been in an emergency stopping situation where you have both feet on the brake and wishing you had a third foot? That's why you want a braking system on your toad.

I have and love the SMI Air Force system.
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Just saw an ad indicating that a breaking system is required in 40 states. How many of you use an auxiliary break system on your Toad??
The Laws of Motion are in effect in all 50 states. I want every tire on the road braking when I need to stop. I don't know about a 'breaking' system, things seem to break without any formal system.
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Yes it helps! Does a dealer need to install the system?
A dealer installed ours along with the brake/turn signal wiring and transmission pump. I think you could do it yourself if you have the patience and can follow directions. I get frustrated too easy so it was a no brainer for me to let the dealer do all of it at one time.
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I certainly understand!!!

If I hooked it up the Toad would probably run in reverse!!
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I have one. Use the M&G system with break away capability. I had mine installed by Henderson Line Up of Grants Pass Oregon. Not inexpensive, but worth the $$.
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:58 PM   #11
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larrydp wrote:

"Just saw an ad indicating that a breaking system is required in 40 states."

Unfortunately most ads written by manufacturers are completely dishonest and often are made in reference to towing trailers and not vehicles.

The fact is that there are very few states and or provinces that require auxiliary brakes on a TOWED VEHICLE provided that the combination of vehicles can pass a stated perfomance test with respect to speed and braking distance and/or a given weight limit. The speed stated is usually 20mph. and the distance varies from 25 ft. to 50 ft. The weight limits stated run from 1500 lb.(NV) to 5000 lb. (AK). Only AK, FL, NC, NV & WI show a weight limit. HI, ND & DC statutes are not available on line.

Check the DMV statutes where you live. Do not get caught up with the argument that a TOWED VEHICLE is a TRAILER, it is not a TRAILER but you have to look at the wording used in the STATUTES with respect to what is being TOWED.

If your state does not specifically outline the rules for a TOWED VEHICLE then there is no applicable statute.

The best reference that I have found with respect to the 50 states is:

home.roadrunner.com/~morodat/toad-brakes-by-state.html


and for Canada http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp


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larrydp wrote:

"Just saw an ad indicating that a breaking system is required in 40 states."

Unfortunately most ads written by manufacturers are completely dishonest and often are made in reference to towing trailers and not vehicles.

The fact is that there are very few states and or provinces that require auxiliary brakes on a TOWED VEHICLE provided that the combination of vehicles can pass a stated perfomance test with respect to speed and braking distance and/or a given weight limit. The speed stated is usually 20mph. and the distance varies from 25 ft. to 50 ft. The weight limits stated run from 1500 lb.(NV) to 5000 lb. (AK). Only AK, FL, NC, NV & WI show a weight limit. HI, ND & DC statutes are not available on line.

Check the DMV statutes where you live. Do not get caught up with the argument that a TOWED VEHICLE is a TRAILER, it is not a TRAILER but you have to look at the wording used in the STATUTES with respect to what is being TOWED.

If your state does not specifically outline the rules for a TOWED VEHICLE then there is no applicable statute.

The best reference that I have found with respect to the 50 states is:

home.roadrunner.com/~morodat/toad-brakes-by-state.html

and for Canada http://www.rvda.ca/ProvBrakeReqts.asp
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We towed a 95 Wrangler behind a 22' Class C for several years wihout a brake system and without a problem. The Jeep weighed less than 3000 lbs. and most of the time it was hard to tell we had anything in tow. However, I'm sure a braking system would have been wise.
We are taking delivery of our new Class A sometime in the next two weeks and we also have a new 2013 Wrangler that is well over 3000 lbs. I just ordered an RVi2 brake system. Just seems like the right thing to do for any number of reasons, most of which have been previously stated on this website.
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Just saw an ad indicating that a breaking system is required in 40 states. How many of you use an auxiliary break system on your Toad??
This thread answers your question very well. The physics are explained.
The Physics of Towed-Vehicle Braking
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