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Old 02-25-2012, 03:24 PM   #1
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Brake wiring?

If a surge brake or "box" brake system is used, do you need to wire your toad to the MH break lights?
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Yes, and with diodes. The supplemental brake system will turn on your brake lights if it applies the brakes but you also need turn signal and tail lights.

The diodes will keep the systems from crossing

Go to the roadmaster web site for instructions on the diodes.
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Yes. You need to wire the toad with tail lights, stop, and turn signals.
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As Wizard says: If it is a surge brake with the cable to the brake pedal or a brake buddy type that pushes the brake pedal the brake light will come on when the brake is activated but that does not help for turn, tail lights and emergency flashers. I added a second bulb in the tail light housings and ran wires to the plug at the rear of the RV. I chose not to tie into the existing wiring on the tow car.
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As Wizard says: If it is a surge brake with the cable to the brake pedal or a brake buddy type that pushes the brake pedal the brake light will come on when the brake is activated but that does not help for turn, tail lights and emergency flashers. I added a second bulb in the tail light housings and ran wires to the plug at the rear of the RV. I chose not to tie into the existing wiring on the tow car.
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Bob, not always. Some cars (like mine) have what's known as a dead brake pedal, meaning the brake light does not come on when the brake pedal is depressed with the ignition off, in the towing configuration. Many GM cars are like this.

That's why it's required to have brake lights in the car wired either via diodes, or with separate bulbs as you did.

One cannot depend on the brake system pushing our pulling the brake pedal to actuate the brake lights.
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Pusherman, Thanks. Obviously I did not know that. Wasn't that way in the good old days!
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Pusherman, Thanks. Obviously I did not know that. Wasn't that way in the good old days!
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Bob, you're welcome. These new fancy fangle cars these days get more technical every day.
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Yea, who would have thought that today some cars accelerator pedal would control a computer not a carburetor or throttle body

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