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Old 12-08-2012, 08:28 AM   #1
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CRV steering lock

I tow a 2011 CRV and I have to leave the key in the ignition to keep the steering lock unlocked. I was just thinking if the steering lock was removed then the key could be removed and doors locked saving any chance of battery drain. I have a charge line from the MH and it works great but we stopped for lunch and I (almost) forgot to replace the key before driving off. Good thing the DW remembered. What problems could happen with the lock removed????

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:45 AM   #2
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I think the Honda CRV has a electronic chip embedded in the key. If so, all you have to do is get a non chip key. That way you can still unlock the steering wheel, but you can't start the engine.

When you say "remove the lock" do you mean the entire ignition lock? Or somehow just the steering wheel lock portion?
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:30 AM   #3
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Just the steering wheel lock inside the ignition switch. Then the key would not even have to be in the ignition.

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Old 12-08-2012, 10:54 AM   #4
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We have a spare key and lock the doors on the car. If we stop for lunch we leave the doors locked with the key in the ignition. That way we don't forget to put it back. Or last 8,500 mile trip and no problems.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:26 AM   #5
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In another thread I was told to use my valet key for the toad, then you can lock the doors. I hope it works because that is what I intend to do.

We do not leave the tow car with key in unattended but if you do then just hang something from your steering (like the tow car keys) wheel that reminds you to put the key back in.
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I think the Honda CRV has a electronic chip embedded in the key. If so, all you have to do is get a non chip key. That way you can still unlock the steering wheel, but you can't start the engine.

When you say "remove the lock" do you mean the entire ignition lock? Or somehow just the steering wheel lock portion?
Any Honda dealer can cut a dummy key which will open the doors and turn the switch to Accessory but will not start the engine. We leave one in the lock all day when we are towing, and lock the doors with the "real" key. If the Honda dealer says he can't cut a dummy key, tell him to use one of the "practice blanks" they have for the key cutting machine.
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We use our Valet key in the ignition when towing and just lock the doors. Then we use the regular key when we need to unlock. This is on a 2008 CRV, and we have a charge line so battery is no issue.
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We use the valet key for the ignition and just lock the doors. Ours is a 2013 CRV.
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I hate to be the Stick in the Mud but, as a retired police officer, I'd strongly advise against leaving a key, even a dummy key, in the ignition, when the vehicle is left unattended.

A thief doesn't know the key won't start the car (remember you're not dealing with brain surgeons here) and he's won't be in the least bit hesitant to utilize his "universal key"... the closest rock... to smash out your window to give it a shot. Of course, when he's unsuccessful at stealing the car, he's going to help himself to any goodies, like CDs, bicycles and such, you've been carrying in the "toad".

The couple of minutes it takes to remove the key could save hundreds in repair costs... not to mention the hassle of having to have the repairs done.

During my career, I took several reports from folks leaving keys in towed vehicles.

Another, more concerning issue from a legal standpoint... If you were to leave the "real" key in the ignition and the vehicle were stolen, you MAY have some civil legal jeopardy.

The theory, at least in California is, by leaving the key in the vehicle, you've created an "attractive nuisance"... essentially made the vehicle easier to steal. If it's stolen and as a result, an innocent third party is injured (like in a pursuit which ends in a collision), you could be, potentially, held partially liable for any losses sustained by the victim.

It seems far fetched, but I've heard of such cases being filed... even if you win, you'll be out thousands in legal fees.

Just a couple of thoughts to keep in mind...
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Good point there Stick In The Mud (AKA unca waldo) Never thought about the attractive nuisance angle. Loved the "universal key" name for a rock.



So, back to the original poster's question, with all these comments and information in the posts, could just removing the steering wheel lock be the answer? Sounds like it to me!
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What problems could happen with the lock removed????
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None that I have run into.

I tow a newer Mazda Miata. It does not use an ignition key but has a twist knob where the key would normally be. I keep the key fob in my pocket and the doors/trunk will not unlock nor will the car start unless the fob is within a couple feet of it.

That said, I would normally need to have the ignition knob in the Acc. position to unlock the steering wheel lock to tow.

To eliminate that need, almost 2 years ago, I physically removed the ignition switch, mechanically disabled the steering wheel lock, then reinstalled the ignition switch.

Now the steering wheel is ALWAYS unlocked and turns and the car is still secure unless the key fob is near it. Many newer cars do not have a steering wheel lock anymore. The steering wheel lock never impeded the car thieves anyway..... It just made the repair more expensive.

If interested, send me a PM and I will send you a link to my web page on how I disabled the steering wheel lock. Yours may not be the same as mine, if you have some some mechanical ability, it is not to hard to figure out how to do.

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Healeyman, thanks for the PM with the web link to disable the lock. I think that would work great. The Honda needs to be started and run thru the gears to oil the trans then shut off but the key has to be left in so the steering lock does not engage. With the lock disabled the key could be turned off and removed and the doors locked. With the keys in the ignition the doors can't be locked. Then there would be no battery drain at all..... It sounds good to me.

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Dave,

The locking lug is most assuredly spring loaded UP so that it will lock after the key is removed and the steering wheel turned. Simply preventing it from popping UP will probably do the trick. The tricky part is getting the shear head bolts out.

We were in Golden last September on the way to the Bonneville Salt Flats. We went up to Buffalo Bill's grave site and through the Coors plant. We have a friend from high school (54-58) in Longmont, but we love Golden too.

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